Zero Hour for Hillary - she concedes tonight!

Political posturing at most. What makes anyone think that after all the garbage she has thrown at Obama he would want her to be his running mate? It isn't as if she's a charismatic individual that draws people into.

Politics makes strange bedfellows.

Plus this would get my wife's vote.

She's willing to take the VP slot.

Obama better get someone to start his car for a while. He'd be a fool to take her on.

I doubt that Obama will ask Hillary to be his running mate.

Make that by the standards of most Western countries.

Without getting into any sort of argument about which is the "proper" way of labelling things, it is well known that by the USA tends in general to be shifted way over to the right. In many of our countries even the Democrats would be a right wing party.

Your subtleties
They strangle me
I can't explain myself at all.
And all the wants
And all the needs
All I don't want to need at all.

The walls start breathing
My minds unweaving
Maybe it's best you leave me alone.
A weight is lifted
On this evening
I give the final blow.

When darkness turns to light,
It ends tonight
It ends tonight.

A falling star
Least I fall alone.
I can't explain what you can't explain.
Your finding things that you didn't know
I look at you with such disdain

The walls start breathing
My minds unweaving
Maybe it's best you leave me alone.
A weight is lifted
On this evening
I give the final blow.

[Chorus]
When darkness turns to light
It ends tonight,
It ends tonight.
Just a little insight
Won't make this right
It's too late to fight
It ends tonight,
It ends tonight.

Now I'm on my own side
It's better than being on your side
It's my fault when your blind
It's better than I see it through your eyes

All these thoughts locked inside
Now you're the first to know


When darkness turns to light,
It ends tonight,
It ends tonight.
Just a little insight won't make this right,
It's too late to fight,
It ends tonight,
Tonight,
Insight,
When darkness turns to light it ends tonight
(fade away)

To an extent yes. But, we are of course discussing US politics so it is appropriate to use US terms and definitions. I have no doubt that Hillary looks downright conservative especially if compared to Cass and her political ideologies.

I do not doubt that. But, the simple fact is we are discussing US politics.

I would caveat that, however. The US shifted back to the right. Before FDR's "New Deal" in the 30s, we really didn't have any socialist programs in the government. Then we took another big leap to the left with LBJ and his "Great Society" in the '60s, finally pushing as far left as we could by 1979.

Then we elected Ronald Reagan.

In that case I hope in future to see you jumping on anyone when they decry another countries policies as being too left wing since by that own countries standards they could be well over to the right.

Decry? Probably not. I don't really focus on other countries politics quite the same way a lot of you folks pay attention to US politics.

Which election have you been watching? For the past six months most of the 'righties' have been bashing Barry O and praising the Hildabeast.

updated 9:26 p.m. EDT, Tue June 3, 2008

OBAMA WINS

BREAKING NEWS


updated 4 minutes ago

Obama wins nomination, CNN projects

Barack Obama has secured enough delegates to clinch the Democratic nomination, according to CNN estimates. The Illinois senator makes history as the first African-American to lead a U.S. major-party ticket.

She's walking to the stage now.

Listening to her speech, Obama really pissed her off on health care. She'd have dropped out a while ago if he'd offered a real national health insurance plan, maybe even if he'd just been honest about the plan he offered.

"I will be making no decisions tonight."

She has to consult with the Democratic Party leadership first before deciding to pull out of the race or not.

I do not recommend going to the horse track with The Flashlight.

HOPe AND CHAaNGE!!!!!!!!1111!!!!11! :bloink:

You guys haven't seen shit.

Tomorrow night, the ObaMessiah is turning water into wine at the victory party!

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He fed everyone at the rally tonight. He used two fish and a loaf of bread.

Feel sorry for that guy at the Ron Paul rally though. Everyone had to bring their own fish and bread, he forgot and starved to death.

Well, she's crazy. We knew that. I think we can also be pretty sure that she's lying and that she has decided exactly what Obama needs to pay her off with to get her to drop out peacefully and give him her full support. It may or may not be my guess of his adopting her health care plan and making her the point person on health care policy in an Obama Administration, either in her role as Senator or in an appropriate cabinet position, but whatever it is, she knows.

Eh. Don't be so hard on him. He bats around .333 with his posts. If he was a baseball player he'd be doing fine.

The guy at the Ron Paul rally had plenty to eat. Enough people willingly gave a small portion of their food to the guy.

But, over at the Clinton rally, a man in a dark suit held a man down, took all of his fish and bread, and gave him back a small piece of each.

http://www.hillaryis44.org/

The only one who's claiming sexism for her not being electable is Hilary herself. No, it doesn't have anything to do with her being nuttier than a almond facotry and an unstable, hateful person. Nope, not at all.

Bitter tears are such a joy!

For years, now, we have been hearing, both here in Europe and in America, how Hillary was the pretty much inevitable next president. It looked like all she had to do was ask for the Democrat nomination, and she would have it. A very few of us were saying she wouldn't be a good president, that she is not a nice person, and that she was not very likely to become president in any case. And people looked at us funny for years.

Now, we feel vindicated. She is removed from the White House forever, discredited, and humiliated. And I don't even feel sorry for her. She deserves every bit of it.

That said, I do not for one second think she has stopped causing trouble for the Democrats. There will be fights at the convention, not about who the nominee is, but about other things. And she will be at the center of them, because she still feels "entitled." This is the woman who, trailing seriously, offered the VP slot to Obama, remember?

What a loser!

Incredible that both presumed frontrunners a year ago--Hillary and Guiliani--failed to get the nomination. "Time and chance happeneth to them all..."

^ To me, it's not all that incredible. I remember when the pundits were saying the election would be between them and my reaction was that it was unlikely, simply because it happens often enough that a front-runner doesn't get the nomination that I thought the chances of both of them getting it fairly small. The chances of neither of them getting it weren't particularly great, either, but they were on the order of ten to twenty percent, rather than one in a thousand or something.

What was the most surprising was not that neither Clinton nor Giuliani got the nomination, but that Giuliani didn't even make a decent showing. That was something that no one was expecting.