What if there were a cure for being gay?

I said "pleasure and social bonding." Yeah, probably not a lot of social bonding can happen with a corpse, but some people get pleasure from it, apparently?

So, all you people in the "all abnormal sexual behavior and desires are equally wrong" camp, could you describe what "normal" sexual behavior and desires are?

He didn't say there isn't anything wrong with pedophiles. He said that if someone doesn't act on their urges, he doesn't have a problem with them.

People have all sorts of urges, many don't act on them. It's when they act on them that there's a problem. You can compare it to that shit heel that got 6 months for sexually assaulting the girl while she was passed out. You can think of doing something with/to her while she's out. It can be only a passing thought such as "Damn, she looks good. I wonder what it'd be like?". Nothing harmful comes out from that unless it's acted on. Then at that point it becomes a problem. How often do people fantasize about killing someone, running someone off the road, or any number of other things? That isn't an issue or a crime, acting upon it is.

It's hard to come up with an argument against homosexuality that is weaker than 'because the bible says so' or some variant thereof, but you've managed it. Well done I suppose.

theLoserSquire fails to realize the difference in normalizing versus having a better understanding of something. When people got to meet more gays and see that they're normal people , most people were like Unlike a lot of countries that wrote laws protecting gay rights against the will of the people, American gays won over hearts first.

No one will support pedophilic relationships, but I hope we'll get to the point where a non offender with urges can seek treatment without fear of being arrested for something he didn't do and didn't choose. THAT is something that will save kids from being harmed.

I'm not sure sure that's true. I think what I said above in post #165 is valid, but for similar reasons that I said the analysis of sexual attraction in paedos isn't explored because the criminal pursuit equally gets all the focus, I don't think that we will ever have a debate that paedos should in any way be tolerated because unfortunately there will be many paedos out there who will be unable to tell the different between a sexual attraction and acting on that sexual attraction. It's a bit like the difference between how for some blokes it's pretty harmless to beat off to rape fantasies, and those who have that fetish and think it's okay to promote and engage in rape. I think therein lies the difference between things like paedophilia and homosexuality, where in the former the pursuit of sexual/romantic attraction is harmful and in the latter you have two consenting adults doing what they wish to privately. This point has been put to you several times now and it's clear you're just avoiding having to address it,instead defaulting back to obviously false comparisons. So much for your claims of wanting "serious debate". You don't want serious debate, at yesterday's latest round of bottling showed. It's as someone else said, you just want people to accept your take on things.

Well, there are places where pedophilic relations are normalized, and it's not because of commie pinko liberalism, but Abrahamic religion.
The middle east, the Vatican, polygamist sects of Mormonism always like to toss a 12 year old into the stew.
The God of Abraham likes him some kid fucking.
Why, it's almost like it's all from a book of fairy tales written by backwards screw-heads.

Gays have won pity, not hearts.

Have you ever read a book, before? Just curious.

Man, you are straight stupid.

So your argument now is "they're sick because they're in the minority"?

So are left-handed people.

7 pages later, and the argument is still....

"I don't like coffee ice cream, therefore coffee ice cream people are bad".

"Why?".

"Cuz I fucking say so! ".

Oh? Let's look at the gay timeline in Britain

Skipping over all the early stuff like this:

• 1828 The Buggery Act 1533 was repealed and replaced by the Offences against the Person Act 1828. Buggery remained punishable by death.[30]
• 1835 The last two men to be executed in Britain for buggery, James Pratt and John Smith, were arrested on 29 August in London after being spied upon while having sex in a private room; they were hanged on 27 November.
• 1861 The death penalty for buggery was abolished. A total of 8921 men had been prosecuted since 1806 for sodomy with 404 sentenced to death and 56 executed.

brings us to tidbits from the modern era:

1965 In the House of Lords, Lord Arran proposed the decriminalisation of male homosexual acts (lesbian acts had never been illegal). A UK opinion poll finds that 93% of respondents see homosexuality as a form of illness requiring medical treatment.

1980 The Criminal Justice (Scotland) Act 1980 decriminalized homosexual acts between two men over 21 years of age "in private" in Scotland.

1982 The Homosexual Offences (Northern Ireland) Order 1982 decriminalised homosexual acts between two men over 21 years of age "in private" in Northern Ireland.​

2001 The last two pieces of unequal law regarding gay male sex are changed.[86] In 1997 the European Commission of Human Rights found that the European Convention on Human Rights were violated by a discriminatory age of consent; the government submitted that it would propose a Bill to Parliament for a reduction of the age of consent for homosexual acts from 18 to 16. The Crime and Disorder Bill which proposed these amendments, was voted for in the House of Commons but rejected in the House of Lords. In 1998 it was reintroduced and again was voted for in the House of Commons but rejected in the House of Lords. It was reintroduced a third time in 1999 but the House of Lords amended it to maintain the age for buggery at 18 for both sexes. Provisions made in the Parliament Acts 1911 and 1949 made it possible to enact the bill without the Lords voting it through. The provisions of the Act came into force throughout the United Kingdom on 8 January 2001, lowering the age of consent to 16. Under the act consensual group sex for gay men is also decriminalised​

Gays born after Britain decriminalized gay sex to the same level as heterosexual sex - are still under age.

How many times have you committed buggery?

Never have. People used to get executed for that!

Aside from the irony that the Founding Father (whom you lot usually ) who wrote that was a slave owner, I'm sure his intellect was far inferior to that of some Internet Antonym.

Once. But he thought that that goddamn Dora the Explorer was an irritating little lesbian so he never read another.

Based on his response, it's safe to say you nailed it.

Being Gay doesn't necessarily require a cure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._Gay,_Jr.

Why do you hate America?

True, but southpaws really are freaks.

Stupid lib. NOTHING'S natural purpose is pleasure. Pleasure is invariably the bait to get people to serve some other purpose.

Procreation is now just one of multiple secondary purposes of sex, huh? What a massive rationalization of utter nitwittery.

Yeah, for some reason. Probably the one we call "fourth grade". Idiot.

Of course it makes sense, you dolt. The bonding is to promote the relationship between couples who are engaging in baby-making behavior.

No, but it would be a lot like saying people eat for nourishment. We enjoy eating all sorts of things that aren't actually good for us, and some of them do us more harm than good. But at least we still agree what eating is for. Or do you stupid fucks think we developed hunger so we could bond with each other around the dinner table?

If there was a cure, and you gave it to someone who straight, would they be super double straight?

Like a male lesbian? Or a gay transman?

No, my argument is now and always has been that gays are abnormal because they aren't, well -- normal. I don't fault them and I don't expect anything of them. I am rational enough to recognize it for what it is, and honest enough not to fall for the PC bullshit that makes everyone here terrified of ever speaking truthfully.

I haven't decided which is more pathetic -- gays whose self esteem revolves around normalizing their fetish, or a wussified society that's afraid to defend basic biology.

I'm not talking about the difference, I'm talking about what they have in common. Or, it could be that you can't see what a man who wants to screw other men has in common with a man who wants to screw children, or for that matter, with men who want to screw farm animals and men who want to screw appliances. But hey, how about those new clothes the emperor just got???

The difference is consent, numbnuts. Children cant give consent, nor animals nor appliances. I honestly don't care about that last one, as long as it's not my Vitamix blender he's jerking into because...












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NO ONE GETS HURT BY IT! Two adult men bugger each other in the ass, affects no ones well being unless it's rape, and we already have laws against that, however arbitrary and inconsistent they may be depending on race, wealth and how loudly Daddy Turner cries about his son Brock no longer enjoying steak for being punished for 20 minutes of action.

What do they have in common?

Nobody else is hurt by most of the maladies in the DSM. It doesn't mean they're normal.

Oh yeah? Well you're an SJW beta cuck poopie head.

The clitoris.

Absolutely true. People don't, say, smoke weed because it gives them pleasure. Obviously, cannibis is sentient and makes people high so we'll like it, grow more of it, and create more powerful strains. It's purely a reproductive strategy on the part of the plant. I, for one, welcome our sticky green overlords.

Pretty much. Most sex is done for pleasure or social bonding, therefore that's the primary purpose. I'd even go so far as to say procreation is a side-effect at this point and not even a secondary purpose.

Well, that's what you get for dropping out of school so early.

That's one thing that happens. Other sorts of social bonds can form as well.

Yes, but no one's going around saying "the desire to eat cupcakes is a mental illness" or "God hates people who eat potato chips."

No, the cure makes straight people gay. You... don't want to know what it does to bisexuals. Also, the cure only works once. It needs to be carefully monitored. Give it to the wrong person, and the effort to cure teh ghey ends up creating incurable ghey. Some suspect this was the plan all along.

Ur abnormal. You're also a massive cunt.

That's the only part that matters.

There is no such thing as "normal." Certainly, a guy with over 14 thousand posts in less than two years of membership and posting 20 hours a day wouldn't be considered normal, would he?