Gun owner stops home invader

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  1. Ryan

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    And I thought my parents were strict. :shock:
  2. LizK

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    Stupid kid.
    1) she should have known about all the safety stuff that her dad had wired around the house.
    2) she should never have snuck out of the house to meet her boyfriend.
    3) she should have stayed at her boyfriend's house.
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  3. Marso

    Marso High speed, low drag.

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    Looks like stupid runs in the family.

    1. Teenage daughter ought to fucking know better.

    2. Dad, a cop no less, ought to check his targets and not fire at shadows, especially if he has a teenage daughter who might have a mind of her own about things like sneaking out.

    Plenty of dumbassed-ness on both sides, here.
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  4. Dan Leach

    Dan Leach Climbing Staff Member Moderator

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    Not arming dumbasses with guns is a smart move :P :techman:
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    Then I guess Europe is on the right track by denying their folk gun ownership. 90 percent of Western Europe has no "street smarts" to begin with.
  6. Patch

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    Stupid over-zealous parenting that an 18 year old has to sneak out.
  7. Techman

    Techman Still smilin' Deceased Member

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    Then she should have left home and got her own place.

    Kids that age want to be treated like adults, but not act like them.
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  8. evenflow

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    So we're supposed to trust the cops with guns, eh?
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  9. Patch

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    No, I agree with living under a parents house and abiding their rules, what I said was that the parents rules were rather strict over an 18 year old. At 16 I was doing closing shifts and coming home anywhere between 1-3 AM, not to mention staying out for a bit after that.

    If the daughter were respectful and didn't get into trouble then she should have her own key and be told to keep quiet when coming home.
  10. Techman

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    Pretty evident she wasn't responsible enough to be allowed this. If I was here dad, I would have told her that if she wanted to be a party girl and screw her boyfriend, she either got a job or hit the road...and if she got knocked up, she was on her own.
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  11. Lt. Mewa

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    Ahhhh, now watch GunForge run for cover. :marathon:
  12. evenflow

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    Why? This was no ordinary citizen, this was a cop, with training. :shrug:
  13. Lt. Mewa

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    Gotcha. :zod:
  14. Patch

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    What evidence that she wasn't responsible? In this snippet of a story you have no background on either party.

    It is exactly that mentality that is horseshit. Just becuase someone wants to go out and do something past the hour of 10 PM they are automatically partying or fucking around? Believe it or not there are responsible teens in the world. Perhaps the cop's failings as a father are his reasonings for keeping her under lockdown.

    Of course it would be people like you who blame the kids first. Maybe pop was trying to make good on his threat, "You sneak out again and I'll fucking kill you!"
  15. Techman

    Techman Still smilin' Deceased Member

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    Oh please.

    Oh, I don't doubt the parents didn't teach the kid enough ...probably an over-protective dad, him being a cop.
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  16. Forbin

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    Nah. Stupid is as stupid does. It's pretty shameful that a cop, no less, shoots blind like that. He knows he's supposed to yell for them to surrender first, ID himself as a cop, etc.

    I came home unexpectedly once, and as I was walking thru the living room I heard Dad's voice behind me say "Oh. It's just you." I turned to see him lowering his rifle.

    Note that I said I came home unexpectedly ONCE.
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  17. The Exception

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    So cops in England don't get guns?
  18. Dan Leach

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    99% no, there are firearms units though
  19. Patch

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    Tit for tat on the rest of it, but I have a story related to this bit.

    My first long-term girlfriend (dated for 2 1/2 years) Amy's father was discharging an old can of Mace in his backyard one night. I was outside with him and he said, "Hey come walk through this cloud." Stupidly I listened and as my eyes and face felt like they were on fire he just laughed. Yeah, he was a cop.

    This was also the girl that hit me with a hammer in the stomach and cheated on me for the last consecutive six months of our relationship. Whole family was a bit fucked.
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    I couldn't live like that. :jayzus:
  21. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    Shit like that happens. :shrug:
  22. Dan Leach

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    Got to agree, if that happened to me, i'd move out within the hour
  23. Lt. Mewa

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    Yeah, I know. But if you ask GunForge, the word is that it could NEVER happen with them. Uh, uh, no way.
  24. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    Nah. It can happen to anybody who forgets the safety rules. It only takes one screw up.
  25. Lt. Mewa

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    Yeah, I know. But if you ask GunForge, the word is that it could NEVER happen with them. Forget safety rules, never!!
  26. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    It's about control and safety. Hell, I'm not even a gun owner (at the moment) and I see that.

    This guy was dumb and shot his daughter in the knee. But it was his mistake to make, and his daughter was equally culpable in my opinion.

    If it was an actual house invader, the stats in the US speak for themselves - violent crimes take an average of 30 seconds to complete, and the cops have an average response time of 12 mins. I'd much rather protect myself and my family than have the cops try to arrest the people that assaulted, raped or murdered them. If someone with a gun breaks into your house the chance of you successfully defending yourself without one is pretty slim, Chuck Norris movies aside.

    Two dumb people in Connecticut doesn't change that equation, even if it turns out the girl will have a limp for the rest of her life from getting shot in the knee.
  27. Lt. Mewa

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    How is the daughter dumb? Its her home. One doesn't expect such things.

    Even if Dad is a cop you won't expect him to shoot you.

    Didn't expect his daughter to be in the basement, eh?! Is it some Dad Only basement or some shit?! :dayton:

    You know how many time I have woken up in the middle of the night and went down to the basement to watch TV or smoke a cig in the basement bathroom. Gimme a break!
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  28. Marso

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    Read the article. She set off a motion detector sneaking back into the house. Her dad had every reason to suspect it was a break-in.
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    He shoulda checked on his kid first. Plus those lights go on and off all night. Most people don't go buck wild.

    And I gotta say that I don;t think it was the first time the kid snuck into the house through the basement.

    All he had to do was say..."Honey???" "Yes, daddy?!"

    Plain and simple.
  30. Liet

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    Anyone blaming the kid here is off his rocker and not someone who should ever be allowed anywhere near a firearm. Sneaking in and out of your own home may be wrong for other reasons--though at 18, not so much so anymore--but it certainly is not an invitation to be shot. :jayzus:

    The cop should lose his badge and right to carry, because he clearly can not be trusted with basic firearm safety.