How about christians against abortions, or gays or women priests or working on sunday or any of the multitude of crap many christians (or members of other religions of course) support...?
You can't have it both ways. There are plenty of radical christians just as there are plenty of radical muslims. and there are plenty of moderate christians and plenty of moderate muslims.
Psst, Dan. It's their right to support any of those things, regardless of how you or anyone else feels about it. It's their right to lobby for them to be laws. The fact is that they cannot, unlike governments controlled by Sharia, legislate those things outright. Big. Fucking. Difference. Next.
So being against abortion is equivalent to practicing the inquisiton? That's stretching, even for you. The rest are even weaker but I'll let you slide on them.
Let's not be obtuse, here. The thread was about Sharia Law and there were two posts condemning Islam. You overlooked them both, but slammed someone for condemning religion in general. Which is it? Is the thread about religion or about Sharia Law?
I told you. I wasn't able to see one. The other was on-topic. Your "arguments" haven't convinced me. Either try again or let it go because you can ask the question as many times as you want and the answer is still going to be the same. "There are four lights".
Let me get this straight; are you trying to say that if you do rape your wife, its not rape, because sex is an essential part of marriage? Lack of sex life may justify divorce, that doesn't mean that you have a right to it to the point where you can force someone. If someone working for you is a lazy bastard doing nothing, that means you can fire him, doesn't mean you can force him to work at gunpoint. Pff. Probably you think you'll have earned it by all those frustrating years of maintaining your "sexual integrity". I don't get it.
If we are going to use the abortion/religion law making as an example let us consider why. Most "Christians" opposed to abortion do so because they feel that a fetus is a life (Let's save the argument of whether or not a fetus is an organism or a virus for later). Being that they believe that the fetus is a living organism of the same species as its mother, a human, abortion would be murder. There are those who are not Christian who believe the same. To end the existence of what they consider to be a human being is murder. Religious or not, it doesn't seem to be a concept derived from wack-a-loons who believe in a fictitious god much, now does it?
My post#5 in this thread, he had to try to personally prove me wrong. In the form of a posrep, no less.
Yes, Ted Jr. really just said that. Perhaps his "fiance," if she exists, should be informed and should get a retraining order.
If you force yourself on your wife because you imagine she "owes" you sex, you are a cowardly piece of sub-human filth. Nothing will ever redeem your existence, and you should welcome it as a mercy if you're just killed without any beatings or torture beforehand. A marriage is not implicit, unconditional consent to sex-on-demand. Boil yourself in liquid feces if you disagree.
apostle - post it, don't rep me. Ask a question or post your opinion. I think I understand what you're asking now but the way you're going about it is not helping anything.
Not real bright, you hindquarters of a horse. I was limiting the thread to Islam, which was the topic of the OP. PGT in his zealous zeal to bash all religions, somehow brought very religion into this. Note my terminology of be "wary of Muslims." The ones who subscribe to this are the problem. Most religions have moved out of the Middle Ages. Islam has not. To the extent that not every Muslim is a strict adherent to the Quran, this does not apply to all of them.
Its also abhorent to assume this is an "Islamic thing", i.e. every muslim in-marriage thinks rape is an acceptable practice. It's like saying that all gays condone the fiddling of 14 year old boys. Think about that when you are busy claiming that PGT is tarnishing people who don't warrant it. Still, its the usual WF circle jerker crap. Al muzzzies are eviiiiiiiiil. So it must apply to them all, right? No stereotyping of course
Why not? A rep guarantees you'll see my comment. I'm sure there are tons of threads I drop because I'm unaware of replies.
You are talking about Islam in the singular and you specically link the OP article to evidence that its an ISlamic thing because Islam is still in the middle ages. Plus, you are actively defending, for one, the "everything I learned about Islam I learned on 9/11" bullshit that always finds its way it Islam related threads. How fucking stupid do you think I am that I can't spot your obviously bigotry?
Objectively, all religions are equally benign in the eyes of a secular society. But if someone is a follower of a faith based on a text that explicitly states that it's the fate of non-believers to either be converted, live as a lower class in their theocracy, or die by violence, I'm sure as fuck not gonna turn my back on them, let alone calling them 'friend.' And the more spineless varieties, the "I disagree with terrorist attacks, but..." types who will still quietly celebrate every cowardly strike on the Great Satan (read: defenseless, innocent civilians), I don't let off the fucking hook either.
Do you actually read english???? Where have I defended Marso's post? If you actually read my post you'd see that, yes the Quran does endorse these things, but I point out not all Muslims subscribe to that. PGT put this on all religions, I merely brought it down to the only one that does endorse shit like this. Why is pointing out this fact bigotry?? You appear to far more fucking stupid than I thought, based on this drivel.
You and I are no different in our beliefes about organised religions. But, at the same time, I am way more educated about Islam than you and I have actually read the Koran. Its mindless to read scraps of information on the internet and what you hear in conversation and then make a decalration that one religion is worse than the rest. All religions are sick. But it is utterly foolish to career around with the attitude that one is worse than the rest and that all followers of said religion are believers in adhorent practices because "that's what they are told to do". Its the same mindless stereotyping that kept blacks as second citizens for decades on end.
Since you've read it, you can tell me if I'm wrong. If I were to confront a devout muslim and ask him point blank if he believes it is my destiny to submit to second-class status in a muslim theocracy, what would his answer be? I'm not asking you for the PC, "a la carte" believer answer that keeps you in the good graces of your woman. It's basically a question of whether or not a muslim chooses to be my enemy. I never said one was worse than the rest.
How about because we in modern times deal more frequently with the Koran's endorsement of violence? How about because shit that happened hundreds or thousands of years ago doesn't excuse a fucking thing today?
Some would say yes and some would say no. The Koran is open to interpretation like the Bible is. Would all christians still maintain that homosexuality is abhorent? I do not believe in Islam and "my woman" is history. Then why focus on one instead of the lot as a whole? Either you think that one is worse than the others, or you just believe that the concept of organsied religion as a whole is nonsense.
Because "the stuff you are dealing with today" is only from a minority of muslims in this world. Christians in Africa are third world fucks who carry out rapes, murders and other crimes in the name of the christian faith. That is today, and not thousands of years ago. Will you also tar all christians with the same brush? Will you brand all christians, for instance, as homophobes?
