Just because that's what she thought he was doing while on the phone with him, does not mean that's what he was actually doing. She wasn't there. She's not a witness. You're attempting to use the other side's "evidence" against them. It won't work for you anymore than it will work for them. What the hell does your statement have to do with mine? Oh, I'm sure it was self defense - in both their minds. However, neither would have had to defend themselves had Zimmerman not chosen to follow Martin.
That is what he told her he was doing. I'm attempting piece all the evidence together to find out what happened. What does anything you write have to do with anything? The only reason I'm interacting with your know nothing ass is boredom.
Boy, you sure are hoping for riots aren't you? By the way, indications are that the special prosecutor does not intend to take this case to a Grand Jury. LINK
Hoping for riots? How do you figure? I'm just saying the likelyhood for a mob driven torchfest are high. I hope the cool heads prevail but with the likes of the list of players in this mess the likelyhood of things going up in flames is pretty damned high. Sharpton, Jackson, Lee, shit man, the list goes on. Manipulation of tapes, racial bias, this is a powderkeg of epic preportions. I guess Rodney King or any number of catylists of the past taught you nothing then.
As a side note, the NAACP and the SPLC are all up in arms because of the number of black kids getting into trouble in my hometown's high school. I blame the racist principal and school superintendent, who both just happen to be black by the way!!!
Yeah, they taught me that people who want to go back to the good old days love it when blacks riot because it gives them justification for their prejudices.
Exactly. Here, evidence technicians photograph and shoot video of crime scenes, but that "evidence" doesn't "go public" until there's a trial. If there's no trial, then...
It could only be done if the 911 Operator polled the Phase 2 data during the call. The data should be polled on all wireless 911 calls, but it's not "policy" in my places. With today's phones, they can fix you to within 30 feet. But, oddly enough, my iPhone 4S won't populate Phase 2 systems. My wife tested it with both of our phones on a Test 911 line they use for training and the system wouldn't work. I'm going to call AT&T tomorrow to find out what in the Devil is going on.
So you figure I'm a racist wanting to go back to the good old days of yassah and yowza because I forsee the possability of a riot looming? Really? Dude, you are so far off the mark that the moon had to dodge that one.
That article tells me two things. 1) She's going to seek an arrest warrant. 2) Manslaughter. If she thought it was truly justified and wasn't going to go forward, I can't help but think she'd still take it to the Grand Jury and present the evidence along with her recommendation. That way, at the Press Conference, she could say, "This office, our Investigative Staff, and the X number of members on the Grand Jury determined that the shooting was justified under Florida law." Based solely on my experience, there's no way the DA or Attorney General's Office would want to take that kind of political hit on their own.
An informed opinion? What's RedRoom coming to? Now as far as Zimmerman being walked in handcuffs to the police station, how often does that happen to someone who has not been arrested in your jurisdiction?
Hold your horses. I said she was going to seek an arrest warrant. I've known judges that refused to sign them for high profile cases so it would have to go to a Grand Jury.
100% of the time. If you're in my car you're going to wear handcuffs for my safety. When we get to the Station, I'm going to hand you off to someone else while I grab the paperwork and set everything up. That officer isn't going to take the handcuffs off because they're mine. They are serial numbered and they were issued to me. I'm financially liable for them. So, he'll stick you in a room and I'll take my cuffs off when I get done.
Fair enough, but you can understand the feeling of vindication that at least the the charge I actually think he could be guilty of (rather than the one that's been painted on me) is likely being laid. If the judge refuses and it goes, does that mean they'll be seeking murder instead? If so, I thought that required premeditation to be a factor?
As it should be. Screens can only do so much. There was an instance here where the cuffs didn't matter when the arresting officer failed to find a gun on the perp and was killed for overlooking it. Big hubub about the guy being an illegal deported twice before too.
Look at what you wrote, you are getting personal satisfaction from vindication because the outcome you want is going to happen, at least in part, and it very well looks to be driven by politics, not the law or justice. Don't know about you but situations like this scare the shit out of me. What happens if he is charged, makes it to trial and then is found not guilty? Mind you if he is guilty then hang him. If not then he gets to walk. But what about the intervening time? Consider this. We had a situation the other year in Tampa. 41 year old man with his son and a 70 year old. An argument ensued. The end result was that the 41 year old man was shot dead and the 70 year old was arrested for murder. The news at the time was full of witness accounts that supported this. Now two years later witness statements have changed, the investigation has brought a lot more information to light and it looks like the 70 year old might be found to be not guilty of even manslaughter. Yeah its taken two years to get to this point, but the community is finding out that they may have arrested, jailed, and charged what could be a man who did act within the confines of SYG. That was with out political pressure.
The I told you sos if he is convicted will be absolutely sickening whereas if he is found free of guilt as per the law then the crys of ineptitude by the athorities will be just as deafening and just as sickening. It's a no win in some arenas. Me, I'll just be glad if the right decision is made and I mean as far as the law is concerned not a bunch of hipster seize my fifteen minute assholes are concerned.
No, I gain the satisfaction because this gives me some crow to feed Zombie. Don't confuse politics with public outrage. Zimmerman walked for as long as he had in part because of the recent and questionable changes to the SYG law. If it goes to trial and he's found not guilty, then I'm satisfied. At this point, the evidence (to me) requires charges. Conviction is up to the jury. Not gonna get my sympathy... I've done dead time for a not guilty on a lot less than a smoking gun in my hand.
I agree. Which is why I was not happy to see Sharpton and Jackson rear their ugly heads on this. It would have been much better if the police would have taken a closer look at the possible repercussions of their actions back in February. Had Zimmerman been put through a thorough investigation and gone to trial, and this had never made the national news, I would have been just as happy - even if he'd been found innocent. But, it's obvious they didn't take into account that their star neighborhood watchman might be lying and that Martin's parents might take matters in their own hands. Never underestimate the anger of a parent of a murdered child.
How the police handle a case should be for the sake of justice, not because of any potential repercussions inspired by the media and race baiters like Jackson and Sharpton. From all accounts, this matter has been put through a thorough investigation. The results just don't match up to your preconceptions.
From all the accounts I've seen the investigation was anything but thorough. Count me among those who are less worried about what verdict might be returned, because the trial is where SYG will get the thorough investigation it deserves. (I was appalled at the O.J. Simpson and Casey Anthony verdicts but not because of the verdicts themselves, but because they revealed huge problems in the investigations and prosecutions that left the doors open for not guilty verdicts) When people who wrote and signed the SYG law say it doesn't apply, you gotta wonder what the fuck is going on with that law