Shot for getting skittles

Are you saying that the scene of the incident was not investigated, measured, photographed, and documented? Are you saying that Zimmerman was not questioned? Are you saying that Martin was not autopsied and ballistics studies on the slug were not done? Are you saying that the recordings of the 911 calls were not reviewed and analyzed? Are you saying that witnesses were not interviewed and statements were not taken? Are you saying that Zimmerman's alleged facial and head wounds were not evaluated and documented, not only by the police, but by a physician and paramedics and that those reports are not being considered?

Seriously, Jenee, you know I'm not in the crowd that's calling you the "village idiot", but you're honestly starting to sound like you're barking at the Moon.

People, we're talking about Florida in 2012, not Mississippi in 1964. If I ever needed convincing that leftists and progressives don't have a lick of common horse sense, this thread has done it.

I've no idea, but I doubt it.

I'm sure he was

Wouldn't know. An autopsy maybe, but ballistics? those are expensive tests and they already know what killed Martin and the gun that killed him.

Reviewed? sure. Analyzed? to what end? they'd already made a decision that night.

Oh, yes. Those are documented.

Where did I say that? I'm sure his wounds were adequately documented.

Go ahead. I'm surprised you've lasted this long. It was only a matter of time once you started agreeing with the shit that apostle types.

Now you're talking out of your ass. I haven't said anything about racism here. Only the facts. If you can't or won't see them, but prefer to see conjecture and what may have happened - and then project on me your inability to look at things objectively, doubt my intelligence and call me intellectually dishonest, then you haven't been reading my posts.

You can't seriously believe that.

It's SOP. You can't establish that Martin was killed by Zimmerman's gun without it. And AFAIK, it's probably one of the cheapest forensics tests there is.

Apostle's opinions are his and he does not speak for me.

Perhaps not you specifically, but if Martin had been a white kid, do you think this case would be the nationwide shitstorm and 2500+ thread that it is?

If Martin had been a white kid, the shooter probably would have been charged already.

No crow here.

You're arguments in this thread are pathetic. On par with the retard that is Jenee.

That there maybe a State Attorney who possibly wants to charge Zimmerman with a crime doesn't suddenly validate your arguments.

I've been calling you an idiot because your arguments are idiotic.

You choose to declare Zimmerman guilty based on skin color. You've been trying to bend what little public knowledge there is out there to your argument without regard for commonsense.

The State Attorney is up for re-election this year and no matter what they say they are always considering politics in cases like this. No doubt this lady is figuring her chances of getting back into office should Zimmerman not be charged.

I'm not particularly worried for Zimmerman. Even if charged and brought to trial there is more then enough reasonable doubt.

I doubt it. If there was a reasonable belief that it was self defense, probably not. It's the racial element that is driving this case, not the victim's age. Teenagers commit violent crimes all the time.

I am worried for Zimmerman. I want justice, whatever the outcome. At this point, it's going to be pretty hard to seat an impartial jury if it does go to trial.

It can be done.

See the thing is we are in the minority to have discussed this case at length. I listen to the people at work and they get basic facts wrong constantly. I've no desire to argue with them so I just don't talk about the subject.

Most people know there was a shooting, a hoodie, Skittles, and a dead black kid. Their views have been shaped by the media. Hell most people still think Zimmerman was in the car when the 911 operator asked him to stop following Trayvon and that Zimmerman after saying "okay" then decided to get out of his car.

Now when they get in a courtroom and see the actual evidence? They will find out that most of what they think they know is wrong and they will pay attention. It's possible he would still get convicted of course.

This is what happened with Rodney King. People couldn't understand how the jury made their decision but the jury saw far more evidence then the news ever put on TV.

It would also completely wreck the story of the witness who is the most important in backing up Zimmerman's story.

But the big question is the "if."

Well, according to some people here the case has already thoroughly investigated...

Joe Scarborough (that raving liberal) has already said on MSNBC that if Zimmerman were dead Martin would be in jail and the only question is whether or not it would be a death penalty case. But of course that's just another liberal talking head from the Lamestream media...

Do you have any evidence that it has not been thoroughly investigated?

NBC... The ones who edited the 911 tapes?

If Martin attacked Zimmerman and had killed him, then yes, he would be in jail. That's murder, not self defense.

That's Joe Scarborough a commentator for MSNBC. Former Congressman from my old district...District 1 in Florida AKA "The Redneck Riviera" but since he's working for MSNBC he must be a "liberal"....

Well of course he would.

If Martin had a gun that would be illegal as he is a minor. He'd be arrested on the spot.

Then you've got the neighborhood watch captain dead lying in the common area. Trayvon Martin is a visitor to the neighborhood. Why the is Martin walking behind the townhouses? In the rain. And carrying a gun?

The police will then find out why this kid is in Sanford and it will be because he was suspended for having the residue of drugs in his backpack. Then they will discover that he's under investigation for burglary by Miami-Dade Police.

Oh yeah he's getting arrested based on all that. And the odds of him being able to get away with claiming self-defense? Pretty slim.

Yeah see when people flip the script they like to pretend that Martin is still an "angel" and he would have been arrested only because he's black. They like to ignore Martin's history.

Of course since it's Zimmerman all we hear is how he was arrested for fighting with the police and he had restraining orders against his ex-fiance.

So we are expected to pay attention to Zimmerman's past while ignoring Martin's.

He's a RINO and the more he stays at that filthy place the more he sounds like a liberal.

Wait, what?

I hadn't caught that he was under investigation for burglary. Was that over the women's jewelry and the screwdriver in his backpack?

If Barack Obama had a son, he'd look like Trayvon.

I guess that means he is cheating on Michelle?

Wouldn't you?

Yay, finally a response out of the idiot king himself.

Except now you go on to show how you truly are a retard, leading with this:

No-I choose to declare that he admittedly shot someone in a situation his actions created. I feel his guilt lies in the fact that he has not been shown to be any more competent as an armed patrolman as I would be an O.R. nurse.

You (and your position sharers) however, have been in such a rush to convict Martin of (supposedly) intending to commit a crime so as to publish a defamatory picture that wasn't even him. Wanna tell me how y'all aren't convicting by skin tone again?

Because he admittedly fired the fatal shot combined with his version and other versions of events not jiving, there is cause to charge him. You'll also note that i have never called for murder charges, but rather the manslaughter that appears to be being pursued. Why? I don't think this was premeditated nor was it Zimmerman's intention to kill that night.

See, that he's been charged to me suggests that there is further probable cause.

Try actually reading and understanding what I've said in future rather than making up words and claiming they're mine. You'll look less stupid.

Damn...is this thread a WF record?

Well, at least Zimmerman's scream has finally been explained:

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Idiot.

If there were cause to charge him he'd have been charged.

At best you can hope someone comes to your conclusion down the road and charges may yet be filed but as it stands I reiterate my first sentence.

Right on cue...

There is cause to charge him, because he's an asshole and I don't like him!

About that. It's a pretty through fisking of the Sentinel article.

I'd expect nothing less from MSNBC's house conservative(SWIDT).

Very long article here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46922042/#.T3m11dnd2uI

Some highlights:

"Last August, the homeowners association decided to create a neighborhood watch, and a Sanford police official came to the Retreat to explain the guidelines: volunteers do not possess police powers; they should not be armed; and they should be the eyes and ears for the police — but not vigilantes.

The group chose as its neighborhood watch coordinator the very man who had invited the official to speak: a man with thinning dark hair and an average build named George Zimmerman."

"However it started, witnesses described to the 911 dispatcher what resulted: the neighborhood watch coordinator, 5-foot-9 and 170 pounds, and the visitor, 6-foot-1 and 150, wrestling on the ground. "

"Mr. Zimmerman, meanwhile, was taken to Sanford police headquarters, where, he told his father, the police took many photographs of his injuries. His father said that he had a broken nose, a swollen and cut lower lip, and two cuts on the back of his head. "

"The day after the shooting, George Zimmerman, according to his father, returned with at least three police officers to the Retreat at Twin Lakes, back to that grassy area where plaintive cries for help had gone unanswered. The investigators, accompanied by someone with a video camera, wanted him to re-enact the events of the night when the two strangers had stood their ground.

Mr. Zimmerman’s father watched from nearby. “They started where his vehicle was,” he recalled. “They walked him down the sidewalk and to the end of the sidewalk, to the street where he got an address and then walked him back towards his vehicle, near where the incident occurred.” "