GOP Senate candidate says most rapes aren't; women can mentally abort

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  1. Tuckerfan

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    Of course. The scary part is that we've all missed the point. Just as I said earlier, about, a good portion of the Irish Parliament being in jail in 1968. the question is not, why are they in jail, but rather, why were they elected to office? People voted for them. Why did our Congress get seated via going over a cliff? Because people vote for them. We already know they're nuts. But people continue to vote for them.
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  4. actormike

    actormike Okay, Connery...

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    Akin is a tool, and sadly...also my Congressman. He's running for Senate in Missouri against incumbent Claire Macaskill (D). I wasn't thrilled with the prospect of voting for either of them before all this, honestly. Both of these politicians spend too much money, Masaskill is too tight with Obama, and Akin is too much of a bible-thumper. Still, prior to all this fiasco I was grudgingly leaning toward voting his way.

    Now I guess I'll throw my vote away and vote Libertarian or something. :shrug:
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  6. actormike

    actormike Okay, Connery...

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    Now even Mittens is telling him to get out, but he won't do it!
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  7. Dinner

    Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

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    The sad fact is Akin's talk about rape is pretty darn close to the Republican main stream these days and even their VP candidate has supported extremely similar stuff in public. That's how extreme the GOP has gotten to be.
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  8. Clyde

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    Wait, Kirk Cameron agreed with me? Dammit. Now I hafta rethink my entire opinion...



    ;)


    C'mon bub, I claimed nobody would defend Akin, and nobody did. His elephant buddies, wanting no part of his idiocy, scattered and took their funding with them.

    It is a sharp difference from the donkeys' pretzel twisting to justify and defend Biden's recent gaffe.

    But I suppose if you really want to try explaining how my saying nobody would support him somehow means the exact opposite, I'll hear you out.


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  9. Clyde

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    What more proof do you need?
  10. RickDeckard

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    My emphasis. What on earth are you talking about? Did this happen in some alternate universe?
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    This is actually the biggest reason, in all probability, that people like actormike have been twisting your posts so seriously, in order to try to make them into some sort of a defense of Akin. They can then use that to justify so many Democrats having defended Biden's stupidity.

    "Hey, the Republicans do it, too!"

    It's the oldest justification in the world, even when it requires such transparent mental gymnastics as those used in this thread.

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  12. actormike

    actormike Okay, Connery...

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    What Akin said has absolutely nothing to do with anything Joe Biden has said.

    Trying to change the subject by bringing up something that has nothing to do with it is deflecting. And deflecting is a form of defense.
  13. Clyde

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    That's some weapons grade baloneyium right there.

    Two politicians from two different parties each make a stupid comment.
    • One party makes ridiculous justifications for their politician.
    • The other party admits their politician a dumbass.

    One member of an obscure BBS correctly predicts the differing reactions.*

    Then partisans from the party of ridiculous justifications claim that the accurate prediction is somehow a defense of the other party's dumbass.







    *This part reads better if you imagine The Battle Hymn of the Republic playing in the background.
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  14. Muad Dib

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    I don't believe he was talking about you.
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  15. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    You are making a false equivalence.

    Two politicians from two different parties each make a stupid comment.

    • One politician says something that could be interpreted as a poorly thought out opinion, but given as an affirmation of the experience of his audience.
    • The other politician uses factually incorrect data to deny the experience of rape victims.

    One member of an obscure forum tries to claim the latter is no worse than the former, the denies he has any agenda behind the false equivalence.
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  16. Clyde

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    ^You're gonna get a lot of rep!

    :D
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  17. Clyde

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    You may well be right, who knows what motivates partisan minds. Maybe it's the jersey, the painted face, and the free file of political talking points for every occasion!
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    [YT="Legitimate Rape"]mg_4O6XmKAQ[/YT]
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  19. actormike

    actormike Okay, Connery...

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    Another thing I don't get: why are we adding modifiers to rape. Legitimate rape, forcible rape...when did rape become something other than rape??
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  20. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Wow, that was fast! :cool:

    When it causes certain politicians to second-guess and possibly retcon some of the "harmless pranks" they got up to in college...
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    Ah, so where does having the state police bring up a young girl so you can point your penis at her fall in the lexicon?

    Or what if you show some concern later, like "Ya better put some ice on that lip..." does that de-legitimize the rape? :chris:
  22. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    If you're a politician, it probably hinges on how quickly your People can get out ahead of it. :bergman:
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    You mean like Statutory Rape?
  24. evenflow

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    Or, the Kennedy defense, wrap everything in faux royalty. :king:
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  25. actormike

    actormike Okay, Connery...

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    Statutory rape is a different crime.

    But legitimate rape, forcible rape, date rape, marital rape...all the same thing.
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  26. RickDeckard

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    There's only a problem with modifiers unless they're redundant. "Legitimate" rape is redundant.
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    I have no idea what Akin meant by the term, and when someone is making comments as monumentally stupid as he did they could have any ridiculous idea in mind, but I nevertheless can think of a case where the term 'legitimate rape" could be valid.

    Some "rapes" are not actually rapes at all. They are cases where someone claimed it was rape, because they didn't want to get in trouble for having sex, but it was in fact consensual. The term "legitimate rape" could validly be used to refer to those cases where it actually was rape, as opposed to a mere claim of rape when it was not, in fact, rape.

    Of course, if that's what Akin meant, it probably makes his statement even worse, because with his ridiculous idea that a rape victim isn't likely to get pregnant, that would imply that if a girl got pregnant from being "raped," then she wasn't really raped at all. I won't claim that's what he meant, but I won't rule it out, either.

    The bottom line is that the term "legitimate rape" is not necessarily meaningless or redundant in and of itself, but in the context of Akin's remarks, I don't see any way it can be really innocent.

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  28. Clyde

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    ^You're defending Akin! :shakefist:




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  29. PGT

    PGT Fuck the fuck off

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    Would we not just be adding legitimate, real or true to everything then?

    "This is an apple"
    "No, it is pear - This is a legitimate apple"
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  30. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    The best thing about Akin?

    He is currently a member of the Committee of Science, Space, and Technology.

    Yes, a man as mentally backward as this one is currently determining policy on scientific matters for all of America!

    God Bless the USA!
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