Brexit now leading by 10 points

#butcherabe

Thrusting is against Biblical teaching, D. Don't succumb to temptation.

Putin has a suggestion for the new EU language.

English was a global language well before the denizens of Jamestown had squeezed out their first brat.

I suggest Wookie.

How was English a global language when there weren't even any English speakers on four of the continents?

Does that mean you think Ireland also left the EU?

Especially when you combine it with Farage saying that if leave loses it shouldn't count unless 60% of the people vote to stay. So, using Farage's own measuring stick 51.9% for leaveshouldn't count and we should have a second vote.

And which continents do you imagine those to be? Name them and I will point out a country where English is the official language. Excluding Antarctica, of course though even there you have the British Antarctic Territory.

North America, South America, Australia, and Antarctica, prior to 1607.

Ireland and Malta didn't list English as their official language, they listed Irish Gaelic and Maltese. Only the UK listed English as its official language. Every other country listed their local languages so EU publications would be available in those languages as well as English.

You have to remember, Dinner has an inability to acquire meaning from written words. Though it was obvious to most that you were addressing Chup's pre-colonial claim, Dinner actually thought you meant there was no English currently spoken outside of Europe, Asia, and Africa.

I know, I read the article. Despite France wanting everyone to speak French that isn't going to happen and English is likely to remain the defacto working language of the EU.

That is rich given you long history of failing to read links then trying to declare they don't say what they say! Look in the mirror, young man.

No more lying Dinner. More and more people recognize your disability. It is well known at this point. We would pitty you if you weren't such a jerk.

What ever you have to tell yourself to feel better, man.

I am not saying I am perfect but you really are no better and you have a giant blind spot for your own failings.

And it's stayed the global language ONLY because of those brats and their descendants.

Let's not kid ourselves.....

If the USA did not exist the global language would not be English.

A, yes, but not the dominant second language in Europe, which used to be French. And I wasn't speaking about history for once, but about current causes.

It might still be. The British Empire might have been even more influential if the American colonies had stayed in.

The British Empire is alive and kicking, it's just governed from Washington (or Wallstreet).

I meant if the USA had no existed as in the British Empire never had those colonies. Just pretend that the Americas do not exist. In that situation the Brits are going to have a hard time keeping English the worlds business language.

If the American Revolution had failed it is quite possible that the de facto capital of the British Empire might've eventually moved to Philadelphia. At that time one of the largest English speaking cities in the entire world.

Much like the Roman Empire moved their capital from Rome to Constantinople. London would've remained symbolically the capital of course.

Marine Le Pen on Brexit

IF there’s one thing that chafes French pride, it’s seeing the British steal the limelight. But in the face of real courage, even the proudest French person can only tip his hat and bow. The decision that the people of Britain have just made was indeed an act of courage — the courage of a people who embrace their freedom.

Brexit won out, defeating all forecasts. Britain decided to cast off from the European Union and reclaim its independence among the world’s nations. It had been said that the election would hinge solely on economic matters; the British, however, were more insightful in understanding the real issue than commentators like to admit.

British voters understood that behind prognostications about the pound’s exchange rate and behind the debates of financial experts, only one question, at once simple and fundamental, was being asked: Do we want an undemocratic authority ruling our lives, or would we rather regain control over our destiny? Brexit is, above all, a political issue. It’s about the free choice of a people deciding to govern itself. Even when it is touted by all the propaganda in the world, a cage remains a cage, and a cage is unbearable to a human being in love with freedom.

The European Union has become a prison of peoples. Each of the 28 countries that constitute it has slowly lost its democratic prerogatives to commissions and councils with no popular mandate. Every nation in the union has had to apply laws it did not want for itself. Member nations no longer determine their own budgets. They are called upon to open their borders against their will.​

Hard to say, are you talking about a world where another country colonised the area that now hosts the USA or a world where that area literally does no exist?

Even if the USA never existed, the British empire covered many parts of the planet.

If you posit that the US and Canada had been settled by Germany or a Scandinavian or low country, really any Protestant country, and then they also settled Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa along with colonizing India, that language would likely be the world language.

Spain possibly not, as it probably would have meant that all of North America would have been like Mexico or Peru, a third world backwater.

France is questionable on the same grounds because if they'd held North America they probably wouldn't have had a revolution and a lot of subsequent cultural transformations toward secularism, so their economic system might have stayed mercantilist with a top-down command model, very similar to that in Spain and Latin America. If you consider Quebec the most successful French colony, it answers the question because the English took it over for them.

300,000 migrants headed from Africa to Europe

The director of the agency for the control of the external borders of the European Union (EU) has predicted that as many as 300,000 new migrants will be heading up from sub-Saharan Africa into Europe, most of whom will attempt to reach Italy as first port of call.
Fabrice Leggeri, the director of Frontex, said Tuesday that he based his estimates in part on recent surveys done in the Agadez region of Niger, where sub-Saharan migration has reached 13 thousand persons per month.

“If migration flows from West Africa continue toward Libya, then we must expect some 300,000 people fleeing this year from West Africa to the northern Maghreb, to then continue to travel to Europe,” he said in an interview with the German Funke media group.

The director also expressed concern that an alternate route from Egypt has opened in the Mediterranean after the effective closing of the so-called Balkan route through Greece to Macedonia.

With shifting migration patterns, 13 to 14 times more migrants are now traveling from Libya to Italy than from Turkey to Greece, he said.\​

The EU refugee policy is an abysmal failure, and one that will haunt Europe for generations.

This is as much fault as the fool Western nations that decided to help remove Gaddaffi as ruler of Libya. At least he could control the migrant routes and indeed used it as a weapon against the EU on occasion. With him gone, those routes are just open to all. Although the EU does need more effective ways to deal with the smuggler boats that ferry these illegals to the EU. At the moment the EU navies are helping to bring these ships to the EU. Hardly an effective deterrent.

Partially, yes, that did open the route. As you said, defacto on the ground it has far more to do with the EU Naval forces in the Med effectively being nothing more than a water taxi service. It is also rich that Merkel broke EU agreements about asylum seekers (the majority of which are not refugees) by declaring anyone who could reach Germany would be let in instead of going through the proper process. Now, Merkel wants to force everyone to take the fake refugees who flood into Europe demanding welfare and free housing because it is better than working in the 3rd world.

THOSE are the magnets. Turn them off and people will stop coming looking for free stuff. The other thing that needs to happen is it needs to be made clear anyone who comes illegally gets sent back, no exceptions, they are barred for life from ever entering the EU. Copy Australia's successful policy and the flows will stop just like they did in Australia; if there is no reward there is no point in doing it.

Australia indefinitely puts children in island prison camps, don't follow our fucked up example.