Brexit now leading by 10 points

And the Pound has beaten out the Argentine Peso as the worst performing currency of 2016. Could reach $1.20 within three months (down from $1.50).

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/b...g-currency-eu-referendum-brexit-a7127246.html

Better SF then NY.

Haven't read the entire thread, so if this has been posted already, my apologies:

The latest I read was that SF, NYC, LA, Seattle and Vancouver were the most likely destinations of ex-London capital.

Interesting to see if this goes anywhere.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...es-way-for-federal-union-says-all-party-group

If people thought Moffat's plotlines were unbelieveable, I'm not sure they'll ever believe Brexit.

My town never makes lists.

Theresa May confirmed next Prime Minister. By far the best of those standing.

It's like trying to choose which bowel condition you'd prefer.

In your opinion. Much rather May than the cretin Corbyn.

You really need to put Hillary in charge. She has incredible experience and so much potential. She will address whatever it is that needs addressing, as she has since she was Arkansas' first lady.

You really need to fuck off and start talking to people who are gullible enough to give a shit about your uberspam nonsense.

No, in my bowels.

You have a bowel condition? My sympathies. I thought others here were more full of shit.

May is awful; Leadsom was probably worse. If I were a conspiratorially minded person, I might suggest that the whole thing was a massive stitch up to ensure a pro-remain PM. However, it's more likely just a case of incompetence and hubris. I suspect the coronation will leave a lot of people very dissatisfied, though. Brown's certainly didn't do him any favours.

We are certainly living in interesting times.

For the posterity of American conservatives who think I am a lefty. look how quickly the Corbynite scumbags are railing against me. .

This is why you can't assume someone is a "hippy" because they disagree with you on a particular subject.

I am beginning to think we are not getting the best possible candidates running for political office.

Yes indeed, where? Chup, are you reading some other thread?

Legal attempt to prevent Brexit - preliminary hearing

Even an ex-pat is suing because he wasn't allowed to vote. Maybe he shouldn't have left?

So what are May's positions on the issues of the day?

London School of Economics looks at Brexit voters

It’s NOT the economy, stupid: Brexit as a story of personal values

The story of the referendum is usually told through geography: areas that had been left behind by globalisation voted to Leave. But this tells us only so much, writes Eric Kaufmann. Knowing where Leave voters live does not, in itself, explain why individuals chose to vote a certain way. Here, he demonstrates the importance of invisible differences between groups, and argues that it was primarily values that motivated voters, not economic inequality.

Britain’s choice to vote Leave, we are told, is a protest by those left behind by modernisation and globalisation. London versus the regions, poor versus rich. Nothing could be further from the truth. Brexit voters, like Trump supporters, are motivated by identity, not economics. Age, education, national identity and ethnicity are more important than income or occupation. But to get to the nub of the Leave-Remain divide, we need to go even deeper, to the level of attitudes and personality.​

Lots of charts and graphs at the link. Support for the death penalty is a better indicator of how people voted than any of the usual metrics trotted out so far.

Seen as a moderniser, which means somewhat socially liberal. Standard centre-right Tory economics. Her recent speeches point to a more one-nation direction; but that may just be tactical - we'll see. Quite authoritarian; big on law and order and terrorism scaremongering. Plays the usual Tory game with immigration, i.e. lots of tough talk and very little action. Although a remain backer, she's said that she's committed to Brexit; but there's too much uncertainty on that score to say what will happen.

He probably means the negreps, but they were from you and Inutil, neither of whom are Brits so I suspect you have no particular stake in Corbyn.

If he means me, I was cautiously optimistic when the guy became leader but would have preferred Dan Jarvis - Corbyn has since proven to be hopeless. My comments on May in no way indicate I would prefer him instead, only that I would prefer a sentient version of the virus that ate Dayton's foot to ANY of them.

The one good thing with May is that the kinds of right-wing BS she's interested in are also the ones the Lords are most likely to oppose.

I thought Inutil was British, and I did disagree with Chup on Corbyn being worse than May, even though I agreed with him on practically everything else. Hardly railing.

Corbyn has no leadership skills and does not have what it takes to lead his party to an election victory. By default that means he is unsuitable to be Prime Minister....and my view on that is irrespective of my difference of political opinion. I have always been centre right by British standards. The only reason you agree with me a lot is because the topics discussed on here are mainly those on which people with brain and civility have common ground....and that is not being racist, xenophobic, homophobic, etc. The American right is still decades behind us in that respect, and it's why I object to them calling themselves conservative. Political conservatism in a progressive democracy really has nothing to do with bigotry or religion...and it has always irked me that I get accused of being some sort of hippy liberal on here just because I don't have stone age bigoted, religion influenced views.

Well, if it's only those things, then clearly it cannot be of any real political importance. I mean, surely the question of true conservativism versus progressives ultimately has to take precedence over a functioning brain, right?

Depends on how you define "progressives".