I simply cannot wrap my mind on why America thinks that regular mass-murders are an acceptable part of life, simply so people can have easy access to guns. That is beyond me. But that some Americans not only accept regular mass murders, but think they are funny, is beyond the pale. This takes knee-jerk reactionary thinking to a whole new level, where innocent people getting murdered regularly is actually part of the entertainment. I hang my head in shame at the thought that I used to support Republicans.
We have to have guns so that we can protect ourselves from mass murderers! Dontcha see? Dontcha SEEEEE!
mods, please change the title of the thread so we're not celebrating OF's idiocy at the expense of actual discussion. I bypassed this thread until hearing about the shooting this morning.
Gun violence is as American as apple pie. Some white kid goes down town with a gun and shoots a bunch of people. Half the country says it's horrible, how did it happen, it mustn't happen again. The other half of the country says Y'all ain't never takin mah guns. Life goes on. The next angry white kid shows up and the cycle repeats. Not everyone likes apple pie, but it's not going anywhere..
Biden promised to return America to normality. Two mass shootings in a week? We’re getting back to normal baby! Promise made. Promise kept.
When we banned lawn darts, kids found other things to injure themselves with, therefore we should have kept lawn darts.
Personally, I find this post to be almost as much in bad taste as the OP and original title. I do not see how Americans can joke about mass murder.
Just realized as soon as I hit "send" this analogy is gonna fail with OF. He's gonna be like "YEAH! We shoulda kept lawn darts! ".
And they never stop a spree killer!!! A "good guy with a gun" never saves the fucking day! Never! It's so they can shoot paper targets! It's so they can have a fucking TOY! It's a TOY! An an expensive show-off-y TOY! Let these childish shitheads go play fucking Laser Tag and paintball. Let some shitty corporation make $1000 paintball/laser guns so their pee-pees can feel big flushing the money own the toilet.
True fact: While the US is no longer purchasing Lawn Darts, General Dynamics is still exporting them.
Well, it was funny to OF because it was probably a white guy statistically and he needs to deflect. Now that it's been revealed it's a Muslim I'm sure it will be an outrage again.
Humans are disposable meat, so corpse cleanup is the same as food spill cleanup. And capitalism is so heartless and gross, they would get a non-union wage-slave to clean the murder gore, and that's right and proper in the conservative worldview.
He's a US military type, and he's dumber than a bag of clams! And he will occasionally comment on women he would like to bang! It's wacky!!
Sometimes a white guy shoots up a place. Therefore we should consider all white guys with guns to be potential mass shooters and ban private ownership of guns. It's just common sense. Sometimes a muslim commits a mass casualty attack in the name of their religion. But we mustn't assume all muslims are terrorists because we shouldn't paint with a broad brush like that and profiling is wrong. It's just common sense. Sometimes a christian priest engages in sexual abuse of minors, therefore we should think all christian priests are pervs. It's just common sense. Sometimes an entire religious sect believes that women are chattel property who should never be allowed out in public without a male relative as escort and must cover themselves head to toe in thick clothing because reasons. But we must honor their cultural norms and not object to this. It's just common sense. Sometimes humans are a savage tribal species prone to violence at any provocation and also engage in mass warfare against any tribe that dares to hold beliefs that are wrong. But viewing humanity with contempt is wrong because a handful of the baboons manage something nice once in a while. Great Maker, I need off'a this rock . . .
gun laws ratchet up and down depending on national outrage. I hope we aren't so complacent to let it go with a democratic legislator and presidency.
Sometimes we need to take the instruments of mass murder away from everyone because a few can't play nice. WTF they're guns, not toys.
Fact: free Western countries that don't allow the easy access to guns that the US does have significantly less mass murders than the US. That is not opinion. It is verifiable fact. So the question to those defending the current form of gun rights in the US is this: How many innocent people murdered are an acceptable corollary to your right to have easy access to guns? And would you be you willing to say this to the victims' families?
Big "no" on that. They only get brave in the face of victims when they can hide it behind a conspiracy theory. "Haha!! Not falling for the tears, crisis actor!". Or if it's a teenager who doesn't have the psychological armor to fight their crap. There's no such animal as a gun-nut who can pick on someone their own size/strength.
Very true. But also the purpose of the amendment was so we wouldn't need a standing military, because those can't be trusted to be used without inevitable tyranny. And now not only do we have the deadliest military ever to be on the face of the Earth, it's also the most trusted government institution we have. The Founders were wrong. They tried their best, but I am absolutely convinced that they would look at what we are doing today and scream 'We gave you the ability to change it to fix these things!'
Sometimes a white guy wants something another person owns. Therefore we should consider all white guys with desires to be potential thieves and ban private ownership of things. Sometimes a muslim wants something another person owns. But we mustn't assume all muslims are thieves Sometimes a christian priest wants something another person owns. Therefore we must think all christian priests are thieves Sometimes an entire religious sect wants things that other people own. But we must honor their cultural norms and not object to this. Sometimes humans want something other people own. But viewing humanity with contempt is wrong because a handful of baboons manage something nice once in a while. Great Maker, please remove Lanzman from this rock.
I wouldn't paint with such a broad brush. There are some very reasonable defenders of gun rights on the board (Elwood and Shoes come to mind). I would honestly be interested in hearing their answers to these questions.