BoJo resigns; Truss fails; Sunak ascends

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  1. RickDeckard

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    They may, but then there are a substantial number who won't tolerate Boris coming back and may try to scupper him.
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    Here's our opportunity!

    Although, if France were to do it, I'd totally be for it to watch the English react in horror at the ignominy of it :yes:
    (And it'd make up for losing Algeria, imo)

    @Asyncritus to comment in this very thread?
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    "Vapid flap of skin."

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  6. matthunter

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    And if they DO put Boris back in, we get to go to negatives since his shitshows are still very much on the minds of anyone who wasn't able to visit dying loved ones during COVID whilst he was partying it up.
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    Speaking of which...
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    Yeah, it's the billionaire plutocrat instead. Small mercies.
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    Well. Looks like India's in position to take over Britain. :meh:
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  11. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    Any specific objections? A quick look at his positions makes him seem relatively bloodless compared to what's come before, and an absolute beacon of sanity compared to what we are going through over here in the GOP.

    Stanford and Oxford educated, he helped get the corporate tax raised, got money to keep businesses retaining jobs for the pandemic, he even tried to get a gas tax imposed to help with green initatives.

    Yeah, he married into money and was a former Goldman Sachs guy, so I can understand your ambivalence there, but honestly, sounds like he could be a lot worse.

    But then my information is very marginal, so I grant there could be something horrific I'm not aware of.
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    He sounds competent. What a change that would be... :thinking:
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    From what I gather, you can best think of it like the Brits have dumped Sarah Palin for John McCain. He's competent, but he's also an asshole, so potentially more dangerous. He's a big fan of Brexit and wants to gut the NHS from what I understand.
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    Don't get me wrong - it's an enormous improvement in the short-term. He is a credible, competent and pragmatic figure.

    But - he's a Tory and Tories are always cunts. During the pandemic (as Chancellor) he was constantly pushing to reopen the economy - at the expense of many lives, and the UK had the worst death toll in Europe as a result. There's no evidence that he's anything less than fully signed up for Brexit so won't address the damage that's doing. And he'll approach the economic crisis that his party have caused by reverting to more self-defeating austerity and cuts.

    He won't be there for long. A general election is 2 years away. Tory poll numbers are already in the toilet and though he might get a bit of a bounce, it won't be enough and the Tory base is racist enough that his being non-white will be a big issue for them.
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    Yes, well, depending upon how our elections go next month, we might well be balls-deep in a civil war by the time 2024 rolls around, and I'm assuming that this would play into Tory hands.
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    Sunak is a huge proponent of freeports - essentially mini-tax haven zones - within the UK. These are also light on regulation, encouraging corrupt business. The EU, notably, is clamping down on them due to concerns over tax evasion and fraud.
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    Sunak confirmed, best of a bad bunch. But they will still almost certainly lose the next election.
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    Sadly, that gives them nearly two years to REALLY fuck us over.

    And they will. Even if their policies weren't designed to anyway, they would make them.

    Why would they hand Labour a stable country if they know they'll lose?

    They'll wreck the joint just so after Labour have spent five years trying to staunch the bleeding they'll get back in because the scars are still oozing.
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    Going along with @matthunter ’s post above yours, if the Tories do go full retard what are the odds there is another Scottish Independence Referendum?
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    It's easy to imagine a Labour-SNP coalition conditioned on another referendum.
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    It's easy if you haven't listened to a word either party have said. They've both ruled out electoral pacts. Starmer daren't risk pissing off the Unionists (rather than the unions, who he seems all to willing to annoy) by backing a referendum and Sturgeon has targeted Labour as "just as committed to a hard Brexit as the Tories".

    Sturgeon is framing the referendum as Scotland vs Westminster - and Labour are part of Westminster. Inside Scotland, the SNP need no pacts as they dominate Holyrood.
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    Sure, that's their position before the elections. But imagine an election result where Labour has a plurality and the Lib Dems don't have the numbers to get them past the post.
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    An Indian becoming Prime Minister of Britain is like the textbook example of irony.
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    The SNP are promising one, and that's rejected by the main Westminister parties. We could end up with a scenario not unlike Catalonia where they run one that is seen as illegal.
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    For fuck sake. Dominic Raab is back as Justice Secretary. The brief respite the department got from him was one of the few areas where things had improved a little.

    And Suella Braverman (of the Rwanda deportation dream) is getting a job, one week after resigning for a security breach. There's definitely a shady deal happened in the background there.

    And Zahawi, the fucking careerist clown.
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    It's one thing to have a government whose policies you don't like. It's quite another to have a shitshow run by refugees from a clown car who feel no sense of accountability and seem immune to the idea of acting for the greater good. My question is whether the new election comes before or after the Great Unwashed take to the streets to demand it. :chris:
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    I'ma just leave this here for no apparent reason. Can't remember anything from 2016 that might have contributed to this...

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