Star Trek Discovery. [SPOILERS WITHIN]

I was 8 when TNG first aired and I couldn't stand Wesley even as a kid.

Well, being a nerd, I tended to identify with him.

I was an adult by the time TNG aired. But, I never had a problem with Wesley.

Never understood people who did, really. I mean .., it’s not as if Wesley Crusher was a “know it all”. He was a character and those lines were written by a staff of writers.

People are fucking nuts.

Wow what brilliant insight into the human condition. This is up there with the likes Aristotle and Plato.

I'll giver her this, she's more tuned in to reality than Jimmy Dore.

And that 8 year old grew up to think Jimmy Dore was brilliant.

If you believe that, then you truly are delusional.

I don't think he's brilliant, but I do think he covers and talks about a lot news stories that the MSM will not.

Yeah, okay, champ.

What is your beef with Jimmy Dore anyway?

The coin flip landed on him instead of Rogan today.

Typical left winger, I was told to not like someone so I don’t like this person, but I can’t articulate who.

blame that on Roddenberry

let's be honest... he talks about stuff weekly world news wouldn't cover.

That’s not being honest.You and @Diacanu are not honest people.

As opposed to you? Who cannot seem to understand the concept of a reliable report? Are accusing others of not being honest.

I’ll give you, Diacanu argues in the same way you do - making up shit on the spur of the moment - his being directed at other posters, yours is directed at facts. Either way, you are as dishonest as you accuse others.

If I’m such a liar surely you can bring up an example.

Every post you’ve ever made here.

Unless, you can be honest for once.

Say it.

You lean Right.

You are not Center.

You do not ever even try to understand anything anyone on the left says.

Say it.

We’ve been over this already.
http://wordforge.net/index.php?posts/3488551/

(Steal Your Face disagrees)
Aww, thanks for jumping on the grenade for me, little fella!

you use the term "MSM" to describe everything that doesn't fit your worldview/to create an impression of crediblity to otherwise unfounded or subjective information sources that do fit it.

this is known as poisoning the well, an informal logical fallacy.

you also continually sea lion these sources even after they've been long discredited as unfounded and/or subjective. Case in point, ths Jimmy DOre character. He's obviously got a reactionary right wing slant, yet you claim he's a moderate and objective.

The "lie" is intellectual dishonesty.

and yes, we have been over this many times before.

Anyway, the clunky dialogue. Book: "If I didn't hate these guys, I might like these guys." Come on.

I actually liked that line. It's not unique, there has always been some variation of it (if we weren't enemies, we'd be great friends), and I think it works here. Plus, I like Book, and I think he's criminally underused in the series.

It’s weirdly phrased, in my opinion.

It's meant to be quirky. Think Groucho Marx.

no worse than:
"In another life, I could have called you "friend"."

I was thinking it was very Hawkeye Pierce.

Well, Hawkeye took a lot of his comedy from Groucho, so I think it still works.

This is true. And like Groucho, he was pretty obvious with his jokes.

I liked the line, too. I just wish it was delivered by a better actor than Store-brand Idris Elba.