2016 Presidential Election Thread

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by T.R, Apr 8, 2015.

  1. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    He does present a forward looking approach, with space battles and such.
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  2. Dinner

    Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

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    Chafee is a moderate but he also has switched parties so who knows how much of it is genuine evolution of his position and how much was just switching his positions to save his political career when he switched parties? I give him credit for voting against the Iraq war but he is probably way to close to the financial lobby. I want someone who is actually left of center and who will actually fight for those values instead of just compromise with his own compromises the way Obama did. Frankly, taking away a public option before the ACA was even begun to be negotiated wad a stab in the back.

    What I am looking for is a modern day FDR who actually fights the moneyed interests tooth and nail and roots out the lobbies corruption and the gerrymandering of districts. I don't see how that is possible to achieve though.
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  3. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Chafee is definitely in the pro-Wall Street group. Note the way he argued that Clinton is on the same page with all Democrats. She is certainly not on the same page as Warren, for example, and I take his statement to mean that he is also not on the same page as Warren. Still, at the moment, he looks better than the other semi-declared Dem.
  4. T.R

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  7. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Just a thought:

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  8. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    :lol: Boldness and courage and a dollar might get you a cup of coffee somewhere, but not much else.
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    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    OMally's a moron.
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  11. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Because -?
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  12. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Of that retarded tweet and so were his tax policies in MD.
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  13. tafkats

    tafkats scream not working because space make deaf Moderator

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    The words are all English ...

    So what's retarded about saying that if you hate the president more than you hate the Ayatollah, you probably shouldn't be in this country's government? And what "retarded" policies did he pursue in Maryland?
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  14. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Why does he need to make that statement in the first place? Has any republican said anything claw to that or is he just doing what all Democrats do by using hyperbole and fear mongering to misrepresent Republicans? It's like @Dinner makes the claim that Republicans hate the poor and therefore demonize them or some people who claim that Republicans are racists because the oppose President Obama.
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    They are demonizing the poor in state after state and they are indeed collectively playing racist games just like they have continually done for decades. Those are factually true statements even if you don't like them.

    Lastly, you need to stop lying. No one has said all opposition to the President was based on racism just that there is most certainly and undeniably a racial bent to the visceralness of the hatred, the automatic nature of the attacks before the man even took office, and in the numerous overtly racist signs, chain emails and cartoons.
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  16. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    So they're cutting programs because they love the poor?
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  17. tafkats

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    The poor simply need to learn that Mitt Romney worked harder than they did. Tough love, yo.
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    The Governor should be challenged to identify these republicans by name. But we all know he can't and that it's just typical lefty spin for whenever this president is questioned about anything.
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  19. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Can you show us where in that tweet the governor said "Republicans"?
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  20. tafkats

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    I'd also like to hear more about these retarded economic policies.
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  21. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    @T.R claims he doesn't have a favorite yet, but he's got all the earmarks of a Cruz supporter - especially the whining.
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  22. Steal Your Face

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    I specifically mentioned taxes which MD voters decided they have had enough of in the fall election.
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    one last shot at it

    hillary-clinton-looking-tired.jpg
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  24. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    You think I'd vote for Cruz? :lol: No wonder you're so confused...
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  25. tafkats

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    So what retarded tax policies did he enact? Surely you can describe them.
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  26. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Bet me the answer is something along the line of "They're retarded because they're taxes."
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  27. Amaris

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    I already hate it, and nothing has officially got off the ground as of yet.
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  28. Steal Your Face

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    No you whine.
  29. Steal Your Face

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    Ever heard of the rain tax?
  30. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Tone deaf as well. That sound you hear is laughter.
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