2016 Presidential Election Thread

We would end up like Italy with anyone and everyone running for office. Porn star Cicciolina ran and I think was elected for some high position and maybe another porn star too. But I know they have a shitload of different parties.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...onfront-billionaire-class-bernie-sanders-says

Sanders is trying to pull Hillary to the left but she lacks conviction and probably won't do more than the usual lip service. Just last week her campaign was bragging about how they hope to raise $2.5 billion in special interest cash. The people forking over that much cash will be the ones she caters too just like all politicians do.

The arrow on Hillary's H logo points to the right. They could have made it point to the left, but they didn't.

Just makes me think of:

That's actually a sound graphical choice. Americans read left-to-right, our roads are drive-on-the-right, and most Americans equate something that points to the right as going forward. This: > is a "greater than" sign and points to the right. This: < is a "less than" sign and points to the left. The right-pointing arrow is about the only aspect of the overall design that was done well. Mostly it's just a mess of amateurish crap like you'd find on a Powerpoint slide done by someone who is just learning how to use it.

Good point! Maybe Hillary will hire you for her staff. I'd go for it, you might get some "upskirt" peeks!

But if the logo was in Arabic and a Muslim was reading right to left..............

Yet again conservatives show everyone how classy they are by vandalizing the grave of Hillary Clinton's father.

http://mobile.philly.com/news/politics/?wss=/philly/news/politics&id=299782541&

That wasn't conservatives, it was her father rolling over and disturbing his own headstone. I suspect she told a hundred lies too many for him to stomach.

No surprise, Hillary Clinton is now for gay marriage.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/15/politics/hillary-clinton-same-sex-marriage/index.html

Holy Hannah. Bring on the Balkanization already.

Good, that makes her more likely to get my vote compared to the many candidates who still cling to the past.

https://mobile.twitter.com/StephenKing/status/588785256498606083

Stephen King isn't a fan of the Republican presidential Conte derp judging by his twitter feed.

In a quintessential Tea Party Moment, Ted Cruz reminds us that the real reason for the Second Amendment is so we can protect ourselves from the government (yanno, that thing he wants to be the boss of):

Umm . . . you do know, don't you, that protection from government tyranny is exactly why the Second Amendment was written, right?

"Vote for me because I'll defend your right to shoot me if you believe I'm a tyrant...not that you ever actually would, right? Right?"

It's that much more amusing than the guy who works for a government contractor and who trots out the "government tyranny" speech at least once a week.

Oh, Lanz sucks the government's tits yet hates the government. Talk about cognative dissonance.

And Forbin.

Lanz does not "hate" the government. Lanz realizes that government is too often the root of the problem rather than a helpful solution, has grown disturbingly beyond its constitutional limits, is too inefficient and too often in the way. You should try seeing it from the inside. You'd be even more appalled.

Shhhhhhhh...........! Don't break their hearts. They think the 2nd Amendment is a conspiracy to empower inner city kids to slaughter each other. That's all guns were designed to do!

I'm a government contractor too. Just because they are not tyrannical today (while they pay me for services rendered) doesn't guarantee they won't be tyrannical tomorrow.
So where is the cognitive dissonance again? Unless anyone has psychic powers and knows something I don't know, I will continue to work for our currently non-tyrannical government if that's okay.

So, tell me, how's the Syrian rebels efforts to dislodge their tyrannical government working out for them? Small arms effective against Soviet-era military hardware?

Their efforts are going so well that they control most of the country, and even expanded to take over half of Iraq. Not even Obama can cope with them.

THe US Constitution doesn't GIVE the PEOPLE anything. It's a list of things the Government cannot do TO the people you shriveled old bucktoothed mummy.

Makes sense why the Dems seem to pooh-pooh the Constitution - it cramps their style by limiting what they can get away with - for our "own good" of course!

You give Lanzman way too much credit. The idea that the Second Amendment was written to protect against government tyranny is a just so story, made up whole cloth, with little or no support in the historical record. The Second Amendment should be taken at face value as an effort to enshrine the power of states to maintain the state militias that under the Articles of Confederation they were required to maintain but that served no Federal purpose and had no mention under the original Constitution. Under the Articles there was no Federal standing army but rather organized state militias that states were required to maintain and that could be called up into Federal service in time of war. States put these militias to other uses than merely standing around waiting for a war to happen and wanted to continue to have the power to engage in those other uses even though the new Constitution made no mention of militias and established a Federally maintained army.

And the idea that the Second Amendment was written to allow individuals, rather than states, to do anything remains historically illiterate, regardless of any non-historians on any courts saying otherwise; courts decide law, not history, and the idea of the Second Amendment originally implemented as an individual right is historical gibberish.

Cruz is only 44, and probably had braces as a kid. Are you sure you're even talking about the same person? Perhaps you'd do better setting him straight about the Constitution directly instead of freaking out on a message board.

He just wouldn't turn his back on it.

(A) I know people who work inside the Beltway and (B) I've done work - briefly - for government contractors. (I say “briefly” because the requirement to commit to memory a 40-page “guidance” document in order to do two weeks’ worth of copy editing made me realize we were, as the saying goes, “not a good fit.”) So I know of what you speak.

Not sure how being “armed and vigilant” would have any impact on that, though.

There is zero evidence it was conservatives or anyone of a political persuasion.

At any rate vandalizing grave stones is far, far from uncommon.

Fortunately we also have period state constitutions such as mine, which specifically said that the right to bear arms was to protect yourself and the state. The Supreme Court took evidence like that in consideration with Heller v DC, and over the previous twenty years legal and historical scholarship had swung to support the individual rights view of the Second Amendment. It matters little either way, because I'm in the militia. Otherwise I'd have to pay a fine.