Apostle: A Follow-Up Question On Foxes

Apparently you never got back to the "foxes" thread (not that there was much to get back to...), so you didn't see this post:

This is not intended in any way to troll you (though I have no doubt that multiple trolls will try to make it into that; they should simply be ignored) but I really would be interested in finding out the source of that information. Thanks.

 

Here is his source.

 

I was kind of curious about that, too. I'd never heard it but I'm not quite the Biblical scholar Async is.

 

You're asking for a link to "Fox" being a term for gays during the time of Jesus?

From apostle83?

 

Well, for one thing, I didn't read it on the internet. I read it in a rather old commentary at Bible College a couple of years back, and no, it's not a widely held view. The basic construct behind this line of thinking, if I remember correctly, is that a fox, as an "egg sucker," robbed productive, fertile "natural" incubations of their natural conclusion. The commentary claimed this was a common insult. The line of thinking is strengthened by the fact Herod, known baby killer and known homosexual, was guilty of virtually all the fox connotations. If you would like, when I return to Bible College in January, I would be happy to attempt to find that commentary. It's an old 'en, and had a lot of things in it not... in new commentaries.

 

P.S. - not taken as a troll Async.

 

Bible College. Hoooo boy!! Hey,pal....do the females put out over there?

 

Once you marry them, yes. With a vengeance.

 

They don't allow women into Bible College, Mewa!! What are you thinking?!

 

That's not true. There are 3x as many women at bible school as there are men.

 

You're not married, though.

Are you sure this isn't just something your GF has told you?

"No, we can't have sex until we're married, but then it's gonna be one hell of a ride!!"

She's just after the rock and the ring.

 

Well, what I suppose you could technically call "men".

 

I have no doubt of that.

 

And you and all your pals are willing to wait???

 

Not only willing to wait, determined to wait.

 

Clerk's 2 popped right in to my head.

Ignore the first 40 seconds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihSEBDHd78s

 

Whole lotta this going on at Bible College.

Just imagine the sounds coming from the Mens Dorm at night. Sheeeesh!!

 

More like forced to wait, I think.

 

I'm curious who is forcing us?

 

I got a little change in my pocket goin' jingle-ingle-ing.
Wanna call ya on the telephone--baby, give you a ring.
But each time we talk, I get the same old thing,
Always no huggy, no kissy till I get a weddin' ring.

My honey, my baby dont't keep my love upon no shelf
She says "Don't give me no lines and keep your hands to yourself.

Now baby, baby, baby why you wanna treat me this way?
You know I'm still your loverboy I still feel the same way.
That's when she told me the story 'bout free milk and a cow.
She says "No huggy, no kissy till I get a weddin' vow.

My honey, my baby dont't keep my love upon no shelf.
She says "Don't give me no lines and keep your hands to yourself.

Well I wanted her real bad, I was about to give in.
That's when she started talkin' about love, started talkin' about sin.
I said "Now honey I've been a waitin' for the rest of my life.
She says "No huggy, no kissy till you make me your wife.

My honey, my baby dont't keep my love upon no shelf.
She says "Don't give me no lines and keep your hands to yourself.

 

Well, the intimation was that no girl would want to sleep with you...thus, forced to remain celibate.

 

Oh.

Well, if that makes you giggle, go for it.

 

How old is apostle anyway?

 

If so, then I am surprised that no other sources mention it. I have extensive reference works on antique Greek usage, both from Christian and non-Christian sources, and none of them mention it even once. They do mention, however, numerous references to the term "fox" being used to say that someone was devious and not to be trusted.

Are you sure you are not confusing him with his uncle, Herod the Great?

This is the same Herod Antipas who took his brother's wife (for which John the Baptist denounced him), and got so excited about seeing his step-daughter dance that he rashly promised her anything she wanted, up to half his kingdom. He is obviously a man who has strong, uncontrolled sexual urges towards women. I would also be interested in seeing why it is thought that he was a homosexual.

That would be interesting. I would also be very interested in the credentials of the author.

 

That is true in many (most?) American Bible schools, I suppose. But in many other countries, where Bible schools are basically institutions for preparing pastors, there are more men than women. And lots of married couples as well.

I see this thread is populated with the usual ignorance about what goes on in Bible colleges, though.

 

D'URRRRR!!!!

 

There is no sex. Now go ahead and tell me I'm wrong.

There are no beer bashes.

There are no Dorm Olympics.

Its friggin' monk training grounds.

 

glad to see nothings changed since yesterday.

apostle has successfully trolled half of wordforge

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There is plenty of sex at Bible college. It's called the married apartments.

Sadly, I have had to hear it before in the halls.

 

You need to post that at Bizarro Wordforge.