Avengers 2: Age Of Ultron.

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    So there's speculation that Quicksilver dies because of the multiple Scarlet Witch screaming in agony scenes in the trailer and what appears to be one of the final fights with the Avengers surrounded by ultron bots everyone is there (including the Scarlet Witch) except for Quicksilver.

    But the final trailer puts the kaibosh on that - you can see the streaks of QS running by the fight, so he's very much alive at that point any way.
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    Wanna see Hulk vs. Iron Man-in-Hulkbuster-armor? Sure you do.

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    Concerning who dies in this movie....

    Tony Stark - Nope, he's in Captain America Civil War.
    Steve Rogers - Nope, also in Civil War.
    Black Widow - Also in Civil War.
    Thor - He's got another Thor movie coming out.
    Banner/Hulk - Possibly, currently nothing definitive on another Hulk movie. Ruffalo has been talking there may be one though.
    Loki - Nope, also in next Thor movie.
    Nick Fury - Nick Fury movie after Ultron.
    Hawkeye - Also in Civil War movie.

    So that pretty much eliminates anyone who has been in any of the Iron Man/Captain America/Avengers films up to now. It does leave the following though.

    Maria Hill
    Quicksilver
    Scarlet Witch

    Out of those three, Maria Hill seems unlikely as well. Which as already mentioned before, the Scarlet Witch screaming scene probably indicates that it's Quicksilver who ends up dying. But there still is a slight possibility of Banner being the one, but with Ruffalo saying there might be one, or he would like to have another Hulk movie coming out it seems unlikely.
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    You left out War Machine.
    He's in the party scene footage, but nowhere else.
    Maybe Ultron mark 1 kills him right off.
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    ^Yep. Don Cheadle's a goner. He's going to be the red shirt: the guy who has to die to show the situation is very serious.

    And with no standalone Iron Man films on the horizon, this makes sense. They're not going to have much opportunity to use the character going forward, anyway.
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    Interesting thought. Could very well be.

    But I don't think he's a major enough player for it to be a 'stakes are high' film. He's military - he could be liasing with the army or somesuch, and he's not an Avenger. How many people would really care if he was killed?

    If they didn't just do the Nick Fury thing in CA-WS I'd say him - he's not the core of any franchise, his role as unifying all the heroes is done, and you've got multiple successors in Maria Hill and Coulson (let alone Gonzalez in AoS) already in place.

    And killing him off you could bring Coulson back in, which would be a much greater tie in with the TV and cinematic universes.
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    Hmmm - they might be cheesing out. It could be JARVIS is the death - as he's transformed into the Vision.

    If so, I'll be slightly annoyed, but it won't matter much if the movie rocks. :D
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    I really hope they won't do this. While the movies are still extremely entertaining and in some cases even getting better (Cap 1 < Cap 2), there must be a point where it's all overstretched. Don't forget it's only a relatively small group of people making all the movies plus the TV series/minis. ONE guy (Kevin Feige) oversees it all. I'm pretty sure their current rate represents slacklining juuuust along the breaking point. You just can't churn out five big budget megaflicks a year without compromise in quality.
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    They just cranked out 13 consistently awesome episodes of Daredevil.
    Just saying.
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    And they are totally available on Netflix.at (yes that is surprising). I didn't have time yet to even watch one episode.
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    Marvel really dropped the ball on this one. Where's the product placement?

    I still remember the Superman vs. Zod fight, with Supes getting slammed into a Marlboro truck and Zod getting electrocuted by the Coca Cola sign.

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    They should all die. :finger:
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    Damn... you're right. I missed him when I was going though all the characters in Ultron. Probably beacause I was doing this at 3AM. Yeah, he's not slated in any other Marvel movies that I could find. Well, he was kind of uppity wanna be anyway. He's all "Well I'm taking a suit so I can all cool and shit. What, it yours. Too bad."

    Plus I always see him as Buck Swope from Boogie Nights, trying to sell stereos to people. So that kind of makes him cheesy and shit.

    But JARVIS can't really die. He's uploaded to the Iron Man suit when Tony suits up, so there's probably several copies of him around or he just gets copied into a suit when needed. But a copy of him could be transformed or "upgraded" into Vision.
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    I'd agree with you, but there's a big thing about Jarvis 'dying' in one of the EW stories. Guess we'll see. Not long now! :D
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    Pretty awesome. I wonder if that's how the split will be in Civil War?
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    Fuck, the tight shots of the Audi logo in the first Iron Man film drove me fucking nuts. We get it! Audi paid zillions of dollars to have their SUV in the film, you don't have to show us the logo for Audi every 5 seconds.

    Oh, and I think that you're all forgetting that thanks to the "Spock effect" any character can die, only to be reborn in another movie. Suppose they killed off Black Widow in this film, how many folks do you think would pop a boner if they then heard Scarlett's voice during the next Captain America trailer? I'm guessing a lot.

    And not directly tied to any of this, but I just want to point out that Thor's a dick.

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    Went to the midnight viewing last ni..., errr, earlier today. I'll create a spoiler thread too.

    The biggest negative is Joss Whedon leaving after AoU, the ensemble template we sat Avengers Assemble is polished to near perfection - actions have consequences, they may be a team, but it's one filled with egos and differing worldviews and a strong thread of humour runs through it.

    It knows it's a comic book movie, it knows that we know the major characters aren't in that much danger because they're already tagged in future movies, and it treats the viewer accordingly.

    Ultron is a marvellous opponent, but maybe could be used more - although that could simply be that Spader always leaves you wanting more.

    The infinity gems are expressly mentioned, and it pretty much shows that the MCU is simply episodic storytelling on the big screen, right down to the the last two Avengers movies of the first three phases being a two-part series finale.

    I cannot begin to express how much the DCverse needs to do to even come close to Marvel has done. They deserve a special Oscar for even attempting something on this scale, let alone succeeding at it.

    Vision isn't merely shoehorned in, but is integral to both Ultron's aims and downfall.

    The Maximoff's initial alignment with Ultron makes sense, as does their subsequent change of heart.

    Wakanda is mentioned.

    It's a less US-centric story (taking in Eastern Europe, South Africa and South Korea) than AA, but also tighter - scenes all tie into something else. Even the drinking and trying to lift Mjollnir that was previewed has meaning fort later events.

    Whedon has knocked up a recipe that a lot of other franchises should look at and tinker with their own special sauces. And I hope he gets a few more blockbusters handed to him, preferably ones earmarked for Bay...

    Oh, and for the sake of a Firefly Easter egg, Veronica really ought to have been called Vera...
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    Speaking of Easter eggs, finally spotted the Pulp Fiction one in Winter Soldier.

    For those even slower than me, Fury's grave has engraved on it "The Path of the Righteous Man - Ezekiel 25:17" :lol:

    Does this mean the Tarantinoverse is part of the MCU? :D
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    I saw it yesterday. It's a decent superhero movie. I thought the big action scenes were appropriately epic, banter among the good guys was entertaining. But the villain didn't do much for me.
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    Got my tickets for 7pm tonight!
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    So that after Jules decided to walk the earth, he became Nick Fury? :D
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    Saw it tonight/early this morning.

    Delivers the goods. Not necessarily better than the first one, but certainly more. Banner/Romanoff romance is handled nicely. Spader is perfectly cast as the voice of Ultron. I really liked the interpretations of Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, and, especially, the Vision. Hawkeye gets better treatment, several good lines, and more screen time. An opening sequence that has a loooooooong tracking shot of the Avengers fighting Hydra opponents as they race through a forest is stunning in its length and complexity, rivaling that "follow the Avengers all over the city" shot in the first one.

    Lots of good moments in the film, but my favorite is how Vision earns the Avengers' trust. It pays off something from earlier in the film that seemed like a throwaway moment. It's simple and brilliant and got loud cheers from the audience I saw the film with. I was grinning like a ninny.

    Alas, Stark Industries is going to go bankrupt paying for all the lawsuits it will face after this movie's events. At least the Avengers frequently show concern for civilians caught up in the action. Is this perhaps a reaction to the criticism in Man of Steel?

    It's a little disjointed in some places. Thor goes off on his own contrived mission at one point for no other reason than that the script needs him to know certain things, and though it's good to see Stellan Skarsgard in a cameo as Dr. Selvig once again, he's totally wasted here.

    Mid-credits scene (no post-credits scene, as Whedon said) is a tease for Infinity War:

    Bottom line: if you liked the first one, you'll like this one.
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    In the original cut this was apparantly better explained, but they had to further reduce the running time. It might have been better done with Wanda having a different effect on Asgardian minds than humans.