But isn't the whole premise that Supes already looks like a villain after MoS? Besides, why connect either plan to Lex publicly anyway?
Yes and no. Not everyone sees Superman that way. A lot of people do see him as a hero, hence the statue. As to the second question, I can only guess that Lex wants to be able to say, "I told you so" or maybe he wants to be seen as the hero? Maybe he thought he could use it to his advantage?
In order for us to relate to him, Superman has to be essentially human (albeit with super-powers). If Superman were, by virtue of biology, gifted with supreme morality, he wouldn't be very interesting. (@Zombie has already shown that Kryptonians are subject to all the moral pitfalls humans are.) Superman's a guy who got raised by good parents and who wants to use his extraordinary powers to help others. There are several dilemmas that entails: (1) How far should he go to "do good?" If Superman decided that the world would truly better off if a few people on it were dead, would he be entitled to take action? (2) How much does his intervention harm the human race by making it dependent on him? (3) How entitled is he to a good, private life? *Must* he run off to help with every emergency on the planet? If Superman doesn't have to face these questions in the same way we would in his position, then what good is he as a character? You can imagine Saint Superman who gets every cat out of a tree or who stops every flood or fire on the planet, never concerning himself with his impact on society or the costs to his own private life, but that character belongs in a 50s comic book, not on a modern movie screen.
Her point is that if fictional Tarzan can have human emotions despite being raised by apes, then fictional Kal-El can have Kryptonian emotions despite being raised by humans.
Just saw it. Disappointing is the word that comes to mind. Like I thought, the production team has no grasp of these characters and who they're supposed to be. And the imagery in it is way, way overmanipulated. I did have a random thought, tho. What if Lex Luthor is not Lex Luthor at all? What if he's Glorious Godfrey?
Fuck... You beat me to it. That site is full of Superman being a selfish dick. Which is hilarious, Jimmy seems to be his favorite target.
Here's more. http://www.cracked.com/article_20069_5-classic-superman-comics-that-prove-he-used-to-be-dick_p2.html
Honestly, the idea of Supes (and even Batman) as an overgrown Boy Scout is so 1950s. I really like the idea of Supes having to wrestle with what to do because he has all of these incredible powers. It makes him more..... human. The most interesting characters in any mythology are not those perfect beings who can do no wrong, they're the gods who take the form of mortals to have sex with someone, or to experience what temptation i s like. Give me someone like that as Supes and Bats, because then I can relate to them. Don't give me someone who always knows what the moral thing to do is and has no qualms in doing it. Give me someone who has emotions and even after they make what they know to be the right call, still has to reconcile what they've done with how they feel. That, IMHO, is why TWoK is the best Trek ever. Kirk isn't perfect, Kirk makes mistakes, and even when he knows that Spock has made the right choice, it pains him.
Superman is not a "perfect being who can do no wrong." He's a flawed being with great power who tries to do what's right no matter the personal cost to himself.
The first time I can recall people being upset about Supe's behavior was when he eavesdropped on Lois Lane in Superman Returns Lots of folks found that horrific and out of character for Supes, but to me that seemed to make him more human than anything we'd seen on screen before. Its the woman you love, and potentially your child, the temptation to listen in would be overwhelming.
But I don't recall anyone saying something about that being "uncharacteristic" for Supes. They may have, but I didn't hear it, or don't remember it if I did. Supes hovering outside of Lois' place while she talked with her husband about her kid who might be Supes' son? Oh yeah, they got butthurt over that. Big time.
Clearly not x-ray there, by the way. He should have seen the shape of her backbone, not the colour of her panties.
Actually a lot of problems with Supes vision if you think of it as X-Ray in the traditional sense. The beams emitted from his eyes wouldn't allow him to see something unless they bounced directly back, which is unlikely to happen in many cases.
More like 'or something' then, since neutrinos would show even less than x-rays. I get the impression it's something he emits, though -- he seems to be able to decide how far it penetrates the stuff around him.
okay, I know you already got some of this but I can't just jump in in the middle. Lex's dad was old world, raised under a tyrant but also WAS one on an individual family level. He was abusive, and young Lex found God wouldn't intervene to save him. Thus, Lex hates tyranny, and also God. So, Superman appears and some consider him a God-like being, others asert he's a potential tyrant - therefore either way Lex hates him. Bruce/Batman is a convenient tool. Via undisclosed methods, he figures out who Bruce is and that Bruce is monitoring him (Lex) and so manipulates Bruce because he understands the buttons to push. But he's nothing but a tool.
Absolutely. That one small line---about his father's "fists and abominations"---supplies all the motivation needed. Lex hated his father (wouldn't surprise me if...) and has transferred that hate to all father/god images. Lex is driven to tear down/destroy anyone who could have power over him.
Saw it last night and enjoyed it. Glad that D.C is exploring new territory and look forward to what's coming next.
15 word, spoiler free review: good story, well acted, sizzling effects; exposition needs trimming, better pacing; three stars of four
