Blue Wave

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  1. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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  2. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    I thought, historically speaking, this is what was simply what's supposed to happen during the first mid term of a new presidency. And I get the fact that Republicans had their fingers on the scale via gerrymandering...the NC 9th district is probably one of the most gerrymandered district in the country in favor of Republicans, and a Democrat almost won it...but you can't say it's a blue wave just because it would have been a blue wave if it hadn't been. :shrug:
  3. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    You can say though that there plenty of cases of countries where things have gone bad due to a majority feeling powerless.

    30% more people voting for Democrats than Republicans for the senate is huge.
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  4. Zombie

    Zombie dead and loving it

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    And?

    I can’t know the odds are against the GOP and yet hope they pull out a miracle?

    Look at my original one. Nothing wrong with placing a bet even when you know the odds are against you. It’s not like real money is exchanging hands.

    Idiot.
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  5. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    Sure, you can say that. It was the biggest turnout in a generation, record numbers of minorities, women, minority women including two Native American women elected to congress and one as Lieutenant Governor. That's all great and it will all certainly have lasting affects on future elections...

    ...but if that's what everyone on the left meant by "blue wave", then I misunderstood it's meaning. I thought it would mean taking the house, senate, and the majority of state legislatures, and governors on the ballot. Just taking back the House is the least anyone could have expected.

    I suspect the Democrats might well have taken the Senate if the whole Kavanaugh shit show hadn't happened, but it did, and they didn't.
  6. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Silly me, in the prediction thread where people were asked what they think will happen I assumed people would be posting their predictions of what they thought would happen.
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  7. Zombie

    Zombie dead and loving it

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    Yeah I thought we could pull a rabbit out of the hat but I still knew it was more likely than not the GOP would lose the house.
  8. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    Losses are supposed to happen, but losing by almost 9% in the aggregate vote is quite rare. The difference here is between how many seats you should get, historically, from that kind of margin and how much they ACTUALLY got - thus gerrymandering after 2010.
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    Partly that's your misunderstanding, partly it's setting an arbitrary measure ("the majority of") - The actual definition is momentum and vote margin.
    The won 15 of 35 governors (if results hold) but 16 of the 20 they lost were Trump states and the other four were, well, RINOs by the current party definition. And no loss was a party flip, by contrast they flipped 5 (would be 6 if Abrams pulls it out) - that's considerable momentum, the map is what it is

    The won back over a third of the legislative seats they lost in the 3 or 4 cycles under Obama, flipped 7 state legislative chambers and unified 6 trifecta governments under Democrats

    they won 19 Senate seats out of the 35 available, plus 2 independents who caucus with the Dems and there are 2 others not yet decided (well 3 but obviously they are not going to win in MS) - how is that not success? Again, they didn't get to pick their map.

    The House you know about and every "liberal" issue on a statewide referendum won, most of them handily. That's before you note the nature of the candidates who won - Progressives, a gay governor, potentially a bi senator, lesbian reps, 2 Muslims, at least one native American, over a hundred women to Congress and many more on the state level, AND they picked off several tea party Trumpublican assholes and almost beat Steve King which is kind of impossible.
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  11. tafkats

    tafkats scream not working because space make deaf Moderator

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    This was a pretty great moment too.

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  12. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Girl on girl action, I’ve been down with that since high school.
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  13. El Chup

    El Chup Fuck Trump Deceased Member Git

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    So about two weeks then?
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  14. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    You have to be doing this on purpose.
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  15. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Doing what?
  16. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    I don't know. Coming across as emotionally stunted maybe?
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  17. AlphaMan

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    I have to admit... This makes me smile!! :D
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  18. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

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  19. Rimjob Bob

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    As much as that would tickle, the two new Muslim Congresswomen will be sworn in by Pelosi. Pence will swear in new Senators only.
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  20. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Speaking from personal experience?
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  21. Rimjob Bob

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    Here's what you might see inside a Halloween haunted house aimed at Republican visitors.


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  22. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    I would totally do that Cortez! She kind of looks like Rosario Dawson. Sure I hate Cortez' politics and feels she's a complete idiot but I can get past that.
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  23. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    So, we're all agreed then.

    The Blue Wave happened, and oldfella and Zombie need to turn themselves in to the police.

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    Did someone say blue wave? :ramen:


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  25. T.R

    T.R Don't Care

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    What blue wave? :shrug:
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  26. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    By a large majority your fellow citizens said they would prefer Democrats in government over Republicans. :shrug:
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  27. Rimjob Bob

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    The Dems made significant gains in every dimension except the US Senate. Everything else was theirs: governors, state legislature seats, state legislature majorities, and the US House. The shift in the US House was the biggest towards the Dems since Watergate. The US House popular vote was +7 Dems; the US Senate popular vote was +12 Dems.

    So ya, fucking blue wave. :bailey:

    Make no mistake; we live in a Democratic country. The only reason Republicans hold power is through undemocratic systems like the Senate, the Electoral College, gerrymandering, and voter suppression.
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  28. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    If it were a wave, Democrats would have taken the senate, several governorship's and several state races. This was not a wave, it was a pretty typical midterm. But as usual, both parties will take the wrong lessons from this.
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  29. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    The fact that Republicans picked up seats in the Senate (even though it was the worst Senate map for Democrats in living memory) means it wasn't a wave in my opinion, but the Democrats did take several governorships and several state races.
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