Bombing in Syria in Response to Chemical Attack

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  1. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    No. That would be the equivalent of your saying "I hate Obama/Trump/Congress" and someone saying "Why do you hate Americans?"
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  2. matthunter

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    No, no more than my feelings regarding your general lack of positive features impact other inhabitants of Arkansas.
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    Dr. Krieg Stay at Home Astronaut. Administrator Overlord

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    So, you don't think Jews should have a home, and should bend over and be murdered by whomever. Got it. I guess Muslims can have 100% of the middle east, instead of the 99.5% they currently have, and the Jews can just die. :dayton:
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  4. Dr. Krieg

    Dr. Krieg Stay at Home Astronaut. Administrator Overlord

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    You are wasted on that Fakestinian Kool aid. :lol:
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  5. K.

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    Look up Zionism when you get a chance, you might be surprised at all these wonderful things that make up what we call reality.
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  6. Dr. Krieg

    Dr. Krieg Stay at Home Astronaut. Administrator Overlord

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    Yeah, ok, German. :lol:
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  7. K.

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    Kudos. I thought I'd get a weak response, but that was far weaker than anything I had expected.
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  8. matthunter

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    Zionism as an ideal is not a problem. Zionism in practice is dangerously close to white supremacist ideology, or - ironically - Aryanism.

    Look up the treatment of Ethiopian Jews in Israel for a view into how this is going.
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  9. Dr. Krieg

    Dr. Krieg Stay at Home Astronaut. Administrator Overlord

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    You know, I thought exactly the same thing about your response. It's been a long time since Jews cared what Germans think. :dayton:
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  10. K.

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    Many Jews are Germans. It's only racists who think that's a contradiction.
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  11. matthunter

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    Yep, lotta folk getting wrapped up in the tinsel of past racism. A lot of UK anti-semites use "bankers" as code for "Jews", ignoring the fact that Jews only moved into the banking trade because anti-semitism kept them out of other types of work.

    I've had to point this out to a student today who said Jews have selectively bred for mathematical ability - no, they were forced into jobs that needed it and thus there has been unintentional selection.
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  12. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    :kirkpalm:

    Velcro was invented for people like your student. Shoelaces are apparently too complicated.
  13. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    So, I guess I'm a bit of a Zionist.
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  14. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    If you see it as a philosophy and not some genetic inevitability, yes.
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  15. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    lol watch trump lose a war
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    Welcome back dinner. There is nothing fake about what the Zionists have done in Israel.
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    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    Yup, if you do not let Israel get away with chemical attacks and stealing land then you must be a Nazi. This is why even Jews don't care for Zionists.
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    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    Whelp, with the news that the FBI just raided the offices of Trump's longtime lawyer/fixer Cohen, I have little doubt we'll see a military response now. Hopefully not as empty as last years.
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    It's tough. I totally support the Jews having a home, and I get that they still behave better than pretty much every other Middle Eastern country, but they still do things that most people aren't comfortable with the "good guys" doing, and they really do treat the Palestinians (or however you want to classify them) like shit. It's a gross situation where nobody comes out looking great. :(
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  20. matthunter

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    Ayup, and we give 'em enough military support that they don't need to do that shit, which only reinforces the message that the West wants Mooslims kicked as hard as possible (since the US always supports Israel at the UN) and also the Twelfth Doctor's "You just want cruelty to beget cruelty. You're not superior to people who were cruel to you. You're just a whole bunch of new cruel people. A whole bunch of new cruel people, being cruel to some other people, who'll end up being cruel to you. The only way anyone can live in peace is if they're prepared to forgive. Why don't you break the cycle?" speech.

    And note: that speech applies to the Palestinians too - but right now one side would find it far easier to take its finger off the trigger - AND stop building on annexed land.
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  21. Dayton Kitchens

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    BS. The Palestinians have walked away from more than one good deal that allowed them to have their own country.
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  22. Sean the Puritan

    Sean the Puritan Endut! Hoch Hech!

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    When one side's position is "We just want our own country and we're OK with you having yours" and the other side's position is "We just want our own country and we just want all of you to die", what compromise can be had?
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    That is probably because they didn't want to take a deal to get land they owned back from the people who stole it through some very terrible policies. But hey, Zionists puppets are not allowed to think for themselves so I cannot blame you for your ignorance.

    I am not a fan of white supremacy, Islamic supremacy, Christian supremacy, or Zionist supremacy.
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  24. Dayton Kitchens

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    Israel did not "steal land from the Palestinians". Israel conquered Palestinian territory in two major wars (Israeli War of Independence and Six Day War) that they did not start.

    What we call the "West Bank" was part of Jordan until 1967. Jordan (big mistake) joined Egypt and Syria in the Six Day War and got their asses kicked and thus lost the West Bank. Many Palestinians lived in Jordan but had to flee Jordan back to the West Bank after the Black September uprising when they basically rebelled against King Hussein's authority.
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    Chemical attacks and stealing land? Jesus, where do you get this shit, Hamas' twitter page? I doubt you even know any jews, let alone know how they feel about Jewish self determination. :lol:
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  26. Dr. Krieg

    Dr. Krieg Stay at Home Astronaut. Administrator Overlord

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    This.
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  27. matthunter

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    And building on said land is ILLEGAL under international treaties.

    It's why Iraq is not currently a US state.
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  28. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Banned

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    You seriously think international treaties trump national interests?

    I guarantee that there is not a single nation that follows that principle. Not Israel, U.S. France, Russia, Japan, Australia....anyone.
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    "There shall be no United Federation of Planets as long as @Dayton3 lives."

    And would somebody please correct the spelling on that thread title? :bang:
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  30. Dayton Kitchens

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    This is the real world garamet.

    I will note that politicians as divergent as Senator Lindsey Graham (GOP senator) and former Democratic president contender Howard Dean are both calling for what amounts to a major U.S. war against the Assad regime in Syria.