Why do you think the bill is 50 billion but the actual debt is 98 billion? The assets are already subtracted. Oh. OK. Why bother.
A link to prove that please? Especially since the original demand amount was a completely fictitious made up number. If I join a club and the club is deep in debt so I later decide to leave the club. I am only responsible for my dues while I was a member. I am not personally responsible for if tgat club mismanaged its finances. I can walk away free and clear as the club os a separate legal entity in its own right. If the club wants me to keep my membership then it better damn well cater to my whims and tastes otherwise I can simply decide to cancel my membership and that is the end of it. Lastly, every detail of those treaties had each word parsed and you will not there is no legal oblugation to pay anything to leave. That was not an oversight but the agreed terms. The only reason the UK might agree to anything is in exchange for a free trade deal but so far it seems perfectly obvious the EU is a bad faith actor who is not going to even follow its own self interest because the corrupt elites are so fixated on punishing the UK people for daring to tell them no.
Come on, the UK has liabilities to pay, yes, but the value of which can be made to be pretty much whatever you want - it is the very definition of arbitrary - and is why it's part of the negotiations. Not an exit fee? A rose by any other name... It is in the UK's interest to pay a chunk though, EU unity tends to last until money is involved then it's a bit like a bitter end-of-meal argument over splitting the bill. Poland screaming it didn't have the starter, Germany shouting it's certainly not paying for everyone else's drinks, the French trying to justify not leaving a tip, whilst Hungary is emptying the breadsticks into a plastic bag and hoping no one notices.
It is, just not one you like. There isn't going to be a re-do. You've asked this before. Answer is still the same. Go get a thesaurus, look up 'none' and you'll save us all a sense of deja vu. The UK public doesn't want a re-do, the leadership of the two main party's don't want a re-do. People wandering around in clothes made from the EU flag - apparently unaware they look every bit of a twat as those who do the with the Union Jack - do, but no one gives a fuck about them. Oh, and also the Lib Dems, who have made irrelevance into a art form.
Of course its not, thats why you model and assess a range of scenarios. That will then help the government negotiators align their strategy!
I fully understand that there are no circumstances that will change your mind. However you aren't the entirety of the public. My question which is two fold has yet to be answered. Is there a threshold of Brexit bullshit that could cause the population and/or parliament to rethink their course and if so is there a legal way to do that? As I said, in WA nothing passed by initiative or repealed by referendum can be touched for 2 years. What are the rules in the UK?
There are no rules, because there was no binding referendum. Everything happening now is happening because the elected representatives are doing it, freely, in reaction to a completely non-binding show of a very tiny majority of the public preferring Leave over Remain. It would be legal for them to reverse course at any point, by having new votes in Parliament. However, not even the Remainers believe that would be a good idea, and neither do I, even though I desperately want the UK to stay in the EU.
Well, they've reached a deal on Phase One after all. Although I'm completely confused about what it is. No hard border as before, but the additional elements appear to be a number of separate commitments to keeping Northern Ireland in the union, and an "alignment" of the whole of the UK with the single market and customs union. The latter seems like a massive fudge. How has May gotten it past the Tory Party? And why has the EU agreed to something so ambiguous?
Ditto, apparently. You've banged this drum more often than Ringo Star trying to find a fucking tune. I know I'm not the entirely of the public, hence why I didn't espouse my own view. There have been ample samplings of the British public's view, and it was theirs I was explaining. The only major opinion poll taken to display an appetite for a new referendum was by the Independent, which was rapidly mocked for its small sample set and inbuilt bias. The rest show a majority of the public, no matter which way they voted, just want to get one with it. May wants to get on it with, because it causes trouble in the Tory party. Corbyn wants to get on with it because being outside of the EU makes his plans easier, and there is almost as much infighting in Labour as there is the the Tory party. If I come across as fractious about it, it is due to me being fed up with every silly prick who wants to find any, any, excuse to reverse the result of the referendum. Especially when the reasons usually translate as "the people are dumb" The result wasn't down to the people being fooled by politicians promises - and claims otherwise show nothing but a sneering arrogance for those people. Which, you know, always goes down well.
I'm curious about that. It's become clear the EU wants a deal roughly as much as the UK does and has rowed back on NI, the alignment bit though? Surely all the UK can guarantee is an alignment with current rules, deviation is all but guaranteed in the future. And the "full" bit of full alignment with the Internal Market and Customs Union sets off the alarm bells. If that stops us making trade deals with other states and economic units, we may as well have remained in the White Male Golf Club that is the EU, some of us would like invite women and non-whites to play without asking for exorbitant fees. I really want to see the meat of this, but knowing May this has a whiff of capitulation about it.
Also looks like the divorce bill is to come in around £40 billion, which seems a little on the low side, so I suspect we'll still be paying Brussels during the transition period, but with reduced EU funds heading the other way thus increasing our net contribution for those two years, making up the difference. If so, I doff my cap to Eurocrat who came up with it (it won't have been from the UK's side) - it gives May a win and neatly kneecaps the Remainer press who've been screaming about a 50+ billion payoff. When you've spent the last 6 months attacking that point, and it's been shored up in front of you, to keep attacking it reflects badly on the attacker. We'll see what new weaknesses they'll probe for next.
Mostly it seems an attempt to fudge. The EU wants to keep the UK as locked in as possible but is realizing without a deal they will have some big problems. May seems to not have her heart in it and was willing to give away the farm because she is worried about getting tossed. The whole thing looks like an nonenforcable interpret it any way ypu want shit show. I will read more but that is my first thought.
She's a Tory. She could be vocally against anal sex whilst a ten-inch cock is firmly lodged up her colon if there was power or lobbyist cash in it. The fact that Tories often go for the cock up the arse option is more to do with public schools and not a reflection on May herself. I doubt she's had a massive prick anywhere except her Cabinet.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...ision-websites-are-liable-for-users-comments/ Just another reason to be out of the EU. What a horrible ruling wrt free speech.
Michael Gove - big brexiteer and wankstain, obviously spitting blood that May has lined up a soft Brexit decides to announce yesterday that if the British public dont like things, we can tell the gov to change it. Hmm Michael, so if its ok to tell the government we want a harder brexit, it must be just as valid to say we dont want one at all......
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ex...-with-Brexit-Britain-in-latest-punishment/amp The EU is acting like gangsters again threatening Switzerland not to make any post Brexit deals with the UK.
They are actually threatening the Swiss financial system and stock market by refusing to give them perminent access (like a half dozen other countries already have) and instead just year to year certification dependent upon the political whims of Eurocrats. It was an explicit threat in writing that if they make any sort of free trade deal with the UK then the EU will punish them. Tell me afain how the vengeful and vindictive Eurocrats aren't trying to punish the UK. They are also trying to change the current status and try to force the Swiss to join the EU because they would actually be a net payer instead of a net taker and the EU is short on cash with the UK leaving. The Swiss already signed a deal and paid $1.1 billion Euros to get open financial and stock markets, the Eurocrats signed the deal and took the money, but now keep threatening to take it away from the Swiss. It is disgusting behavior. Criminal even.
Okay. So, I see the Crusader Cross in the logo. Look up Express. Oh, shocker, mouth piece of the UKIP. STOP POSTING EVERYTHING YOU READ ON STORMFRONT PLEASE!
You really are a lying sack of dog shit, you know that? I do not post on Stormfront nor have I ever. They have had the same logo since 1900 so why don't you take your ignorant lies and accusations and shove them up your smug, stupid, ass, you dog fucker.
From wiki, you ignorant tosser: "With the exception of the 2001 general election, when it backed the Labour Party,[82] the newspaper has declared its support for the Conservative Party at every general election since World War II, until 2015 where they began supporting the UK Independence Party.[5][83] However, in the 2017 UK general election the Daily Express reverted to supporting the Conservative Party.[84]" So from 1945 to 2017, a 77 year period it has always endorsed the conservative party except on exactly two occasions. @Ancalagon you really are both an ignorant and arrogant person who seems to frequently be wrong about most things you post, you pompous ass. You need to look in the mirror, my smug and poorly informed, friend, and start your crusade to improve the world there, you idiot.
In 1933, when foreign critics of the Nazi regime led a boycott of German goods, the Express ran with the headline: JUDEA DECLARES WAR ON GERMANY! Jews Of All The World Unite In Action. They've been quite fond of pushing the BNP agenda over the last couple of decades. Racists like you love the Express.
