Challenges to Obama's Presidential Eligibility are Growing...

Ha!

Can't find what doesn't fucking exist, can ya?!?!

People love love love to yell "source!" without examining assertions. (Provided, of course, that the assertions are disagreeable to their ideology. Otherwise, any source gets a free pass.)

It's dead Jim.

It made the front page of the national news this week.

Man! He looks like a starving ethiopian in that picture!

We might have to revise our origin theories.

I love this thread! Keep 'er goin' till 2012!

FTFY........

Yeah. We won't be seeing that birth certificate after all. I guess it was harder to forge one that passed muster than they figured. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/21/hawaii-wont-release-obamas-birth-info/?test=latestnews

Fascinating...

What is the big deal about giving permission?

On a related note, if being a natural-born citizen is a constitutional requirement of the job, why isn't the presentation of a minimal set of documents proving compliance with said requirements part of the filing statement?

Kinda like being required to be a citizen to vote but we all know which party's against that requirement as well...

Legally Obama has filed all the paperwork required to prove he is a natural born US citizen.

RTP, Bailey, RTP...

In a radio interview last week journalist Mike Evans said the Governor of Hawaii had been unable to find any evidence that the Obama had been born in Hawaii:

He has since retracted that statement saying he "misspoke."

And in other news, the Obama may not be able to run for President in Arizona next year:

Let's hope so! The birth certificate "controversy" does nothing to hurt President Obama and nothing to help the Republican Party. So yes, keep it going.

Question for the Obama supporters on the board:

Given the Constitutional requirements to be eligible to be president, what if incontrovertible proof appeared that Obama was born somewhere else? Would you support his impeachment and removal from office or just be of the opinion 'fuck the Constitution, let's roll!'

This is just a what if, nothing else.

Curious as to where some folks stand around here on the rule of law.

According to a Drudge tweet there are 10 states in various stages of requiring the proper documentation to be certified as candidates - but it might also be true that some of them will effectively exempt the current holder of office within the bill.

Still, if enough "in play" states like Missouri and Ohio chose to do something like this for 2012 it would force him to quit manipulating the situation for political gain, at a minimum.

Which is appropriate, I think.

Even if you take it as a given that he is, in point of fact, a citizen - it SHOULD be out of bounds for a president to so basely manipulate a constitutional requirement in order to score political points (i.e. by making conservatives seem like nutters for raising the question)

Complying with a Constitutional requirement OUGHT to be above such gamesmanship.

IF this incontrovertible proof appeared (and had been verified to be truthful) then I would support his impeachment. The law is the law.

And elected officials ought to be above wasting their constituents time with this garbage.

If proof came up that he wasn't born in the US, I would support his impeachment because it's the law. However, I think it's time we change things up and allow naturalized citizens who've lived here since infancy to become president.

Do you think there is enough support in the country to amend the Constitution to do that?

No idea, I'd have to look into it. If there's not, that's fine. The people have the final word, in the end. (one would hope)

The last time there was much of any talk about it was when Arnold had just been elected governor. That was prior to the shitty job he ended up doing while being Governor of CA.

I'm not an Obama supporter 100% (more like 60%), but I suggest a tradeoff. Pass a new amendment which repealing the birth=citizenship part of the 14th Amendment (which seems to be a big focus of the right currently) and in exchange repeal the part of the Constitution that requires the president be a natural born citizen. Both are kind of outdated laws anyway, their purposes were served long ago.

It really doesn't matter if Obama was born in Kenya, Hawaii, or up your mom's pooper. His mother is a citizen of the United States. That makes him a citizen of the United States.

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^Nitpick: not everyone's mom here is a citizen of the US. Therefore, if he was born up your mom's pooper...

Just produce the certificate already and be done with it.

with the proviso that the parents were here legally, yes. I'd go so far as to extend that to, say, age 5 or so - though you'd have trouble setting an age that wasn't viewed as arbitrary.

I'd make that deal if the residency requirement was still very high - say you have to have been a full time resident since age 10 or earlier or some such.

I am by no means an Obama supporter so maybe my opinion on this issue isn't what you were looking for, but in that scenario my reaction would be double:

1) That still has nothing to do with his eligibility for the presidency. Since his mother was an American citizen, he is an American citizen by birth, which is what the Constitution requires.

2) I would, however, want to know what the reason was for the false claim of being born in Hawaii. My reaction to that would depend on who did the covering up and why. (And no, it would not necessarily implicate Barack Obama, unless it turned out that he was the one who had knowingly lied about it. But one could also suppose the possibility that he wasn't born in Hawaii but didn't know it, because he had always been told he was and had himself never seen the original birth certificate but only the electronically generated forms. In that case, how would he know it wasn't true? I don't actually remember where I was born; I just know what I have been told and have seen written on papers.)