HAWAII. IS. A FUCKING. ACTUAL. FULL. STATE. McCain was born on a foreign US military base and Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio may or may not have been born in Canada and yet I only remember ONE conservative who wasn't on this board saying "hold up" to that.
Fun Fact: Barry Goldwater was born in Arizona in 1909, AZ didn't become a state until 1912, but nobody said that he couldn't be President because of this. Hawaii became a state in 1959, and Obama was born in 1961, two years later.
So no POTUS has had disputed nationality since you (@oldfella1962) were born, therefore you can't compare and contrast. Okay, so what does that suggest when the only POTUS to be doubted was also the only black one?
"Admittedly I'm not on form today, but you did use the word "questionable", it's right there in the quote...." spot261 it is? Where exactly? What word is before "questionable" and what word is after it? I must be blind because I certainly can't see the word and I just read the quote in question several times just now. "Okay, so what does that suggest when the only POTUS to be doubted was also the only black one?" - spot261 you tell me! I was never a birther and am on record saying being a natural born citizen shouldn't even be a requirement. It could suggest that some people are racist - but I can't speak for what other people do. Just like you are not responsible when other liberals are racist, bigoted, stupid, etc.
Right fucking here: The only alterations to your quote I've made, besides trimming the other sentences and bolding, is adding the arrows. Now, you explain what was questionable about Obama's citizenship.
This thread refuses to die because the original premise was so idiotic and unAmerican. Conservatives kept demanding the long form birth certificate because they were certain Obama had to be hiding something. So he released it and every conservative spouting this garbage looked like a fool. Now compare this with Trump. He refuses to release his tax returns. Liberals think he must be hiding something. Most likely his numerous financial ties with Russia. But see, we know Trump is never going to release his tax returns. Cowardice is his main asset. The same people who demanded to see Obamas birth certificate think it's awesome that Trump won't disclose his tax returns.
And other people's attitudes are all I was talking about, not yours. However I've already reposted your use of the word "questionable", @Tuckerfan has now reiterated that. Not sure what else to say there frankly.
While I think presidential candidates should disclose their tax returns, I'm not sure it would be found constitutional for the congress to require them to do so. Certainly individual states could make it a condition for getting on the ballot, if we wanted to go that route. Like it or not, "natural born" citizenship is a requirement to become president, though of course Obama is one and would have been no matter where he was born.
Lots, actually. @oldfella1962 has admitted that he's got cognition problems, and humans are notorious for being unable to admit when they were wrong. Combine the two, and it's fairly obvious why he won't respond.
Quoting for fucking truth. The original "conspiracy" was grabbed onto by racists and still parroted by them. If I saw the same demands for Cruz/McCain/et al, I would at least give points for consistency.
Right fucking here: ↑ If Marso at the time didn't want Obama as a president because of his ------>questionable<------- citizenship (but not his race) then how could that be racist? The only alterations to your quote I've made, besides trimming the other sentences and bolding, is adding the arrows. Now, you explain what was questionable about Obama's citizenship. I stand corrected! I was only looking at the latter part of the quote chain, not the earlier part. I NEVER CLAIMED OBAMA'S CITIZENSHIP WAS IN QUESTION! I stated that MARSO was questioning his qualifications for citizenship. Obama's citizenship was the issue for Marso, not his skin color. For the third or fourth time within the past 48 hours: I (oldfella) do not give a shit about Obama, Ted Cruz, Arnold Swarzeneggar (if he ever decided to run for president) or any other politician who is not native born running for president. America is a nation of immigrants! Thus why should an immigrant be denied the right to be president? Are we finally clear here? Everybody on the same sheet of music?
Now Trump's making mutterings about serious concerns around the eligibility of Harris. What possible things could she have in common with this last time he tried that?
If only the far left had held true to that way of thinking after the democratic process worked again in 2016.
How the fuck can you be so pedantic about a tv show contradicting something seen in a background shot 25 years ago but then be all devil's advocate about this type of thing?
Amazing how often that meme is trotted out by fuckers who haven't noticed they're the only one who finds their shit amusing.
Amazing how many people seem to miss that Kirk is making a complete ass of himself in that scene anyway. Meyer and Alley certainly understood that. Not so sure about Shatner.
Amazing how I included a humorous video in my post indicating that I was not being serious yet people still responded to my post as if were being serious.