Didn't see this 'un coming: The return of Global Cooling!

Haven't seen this for a while

[?=Read] The Sun Also Sets

By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Thursday, February 07, 2008 4:20 PM PT
Climate Change: Not every scientist is part of Al Gore's mythical "consensus." Scientists worried about a new ice age seek funding to better observe something bigger than your SUV — the sun.
Related Topics: Global Warming
Back in 1991, before Al Gore first shouted that the Earth was in the balance, the Danish Meteorological Institute released a study using data that went back centuries that showed that global temperatures closely tracked solar cycles.
To many, those data were convincing. Now, Canadian scientists are seeking additional funding for more and better "eyes" with which to observe our sun, which has a bigger impact on Earth's climate than all the tailpipes and smokestacks on our planet combined.
And they're worried about global cooling, not warming.
Kenneth Tapping, a solar researcher and project director for Canada's National Research Council, is among those looking at the sun for evidence of an increase in sunspot activity.
Solar activity fluctuates in an 11-year cycle. But so far in this cycle, the sun has been disturbingly quiet. The lack of increased activity could signal the beginning of what is known as a Maunder Minimum, an event which occurs every couple of centuries and can last as long as a century.
Such an event occurred in the 17th century. The observation of sunspots showed extraordinarily low levels of magnetism on the sun, with little or no 11-year cycle.
This solar hibernation corresponded with a period of bitter cold that began around 1650 and lasted, with intermittent spikes of warming, until 1715. Frigid winters and cold summers during that period led to massive crop failures, famine and death in Northern Europe.
Tapping reports no change in the sun's magnetic field so far this cycle and warns that if the sun remains quiet for another year or two, it may indicate a repeat of that period of drastic cooling of the Earth, bringing massive snowfall and severe weather to the Northern Hemisphere.
Tapping oversees the operation of a 60-year-old radio telescope that he calls a "stethoscope for the sun." But he and his colleagues need better equipment.
In Canada, where radio-telescopic monitoring of the sun has been conducted since the end of World War II, a new instrument, the next-generation solar flux monitor, could measure the sun's emissions more rapidly and accurately.
As we have noted many times, perhaps the biggest impact on the Earth's climate over time has been the sun.
For instance, researchers at the Max Planck Institute for Solar Research in Germany report the sun has been burning more brightly over the last 60 years, accounting for the 1 degree Celsius increase in Earth's temperature over the last 100 years.
R. Timothy Patterson, professor of geology and director of the Ottawa-Carleton Geoscience Center of Canada's Carleton University, says that "CO2 variations show little correlation with our planet's climate on long, medium and even short time scales."
Rather, he says, "I and the first-class scientists I work with are consistently finding excellent correlations between the regular fluctuations of the sun and earthly climate. This is not surprising. The sun and the stars are the ultimate source of energy on this planet."
Patterson, sharing Tapping's concern, says: "Solar scientists predict that, by 2020, the sun will be starting into its weakest Schwabe cycle of the past two centuries, likely leading to unusually cool conditions on Earth."
"Solar activity has overpowered any effect that CO2 has had before, and it most likely will again," Patterson says. "If we were to have even a medium-sized solar minimum, we could be looking at a lot more bad effects than 'global warming' would have had."
In 2005, Russian astronomer Khabibullo Abdusamatov made some waves — and not a few enemies in the global warming "community" — by predicting that the sun would reach a peak of activity about three years from now, to be accompanied by "dramatic changes" in temperatures.
A Hoover Institution Study a few years back examined historical data and came to a similar conclusion.
"The effects of solar activity and volcanoes are impossible to miss. Temperatures fluctuated exactly as expected, and the pattern was so clear that, statistically, the odds of the correlation existing by chance were one in 100," according to Hoover fellow Bruce Berkowitz.
The study says that "try as we might, we simply could not find any relationship between industrial activity, energy consumption and changes in global temperatures."
The study concludes that if you shut down all the world's power plants and factories, "there would not be much effect on temperatures."
But if the sun shuts down, we've got a problem. It is the sun, not the Earth, that's hanging in the balance.

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great, now Gore's gonna make a movie about the next Ice Age.

Will he call it, "An Even More Inconvenient Truth"?

Damn rights.

Its been frickin' cold here where I am.

Moreso than the past 3 years.

Stupid Gore.

Could be we'll need to increase carbon emissions to keep the Earth warm enough, eh?

That's the sub-title.

the main title is "Nevermind"

But...but...but...I thought the sun had nothing to do with global warming?????? I thought it all carbon dioxide and other manmade emissions??????????????????

Oh, posh.

Everyone knows that the scientific community has never endorsed the concept of global cooling or a new ice age. That's just neolithic conservative wank!

Re: Didn't see this 'un coming: I did.

In a few years it'll be all the rage, and then in a few more it'll be back to warming again. It's like bird flu or killer bees. The media needs to sell a story, and governments need excuses to seize power.

Cyclical weather patterns? Nah... That's way too "convenient".

I eagerly await the lefties on this board pretending that they had always been talking about global cooling and not global warming. Global warming never exsisted.

Orwell would be so proud.

brudder1967 agrees: It's global climate change now, remember!

Yes! You're right! How could I've forgotten. They've already started changing their story.

The amount of complete and utter stupidity in this thread is staggering.

We're getting our science from the Investor's Business Daily editorial board now?

Kinda like 'Study on the Negative Effects of Smoking. Sponsored by Marlboro'

Any study on global warming that makes no mention of Sol deserves to be thrown in the garbage without reading.

Everything was all intelligent until you showed up.

At any rate, she's horrible PR for the future generations of children

The Canadian Research Council is in the back pocket of this publication!

The article is about "Kenneth Tapping, a solar researcher and project director for Canada's National Research Council, is among those looking at the sun for evidence of an increase in sunspot activity."

IBD is not doing any science here. It's just reporting it.

If the same article was in the New York Times would you two take it as an article reporting on a science issue or would you say the same thing like above?

Why not post the real research then? Hell, why not do an actual write up? Why stick it in the editorials where you don't have to follow journalistic standards of practice?

Yay! It's the 70's all over again!

All we need now is a Dem in office and 1 mile long lines at the pump.

It's true!

I developed a spreadsheet to measure the stupidity of threads. I would go over the advanced forumlas used to create it, but you're all a little to simple for that. Moving on...

Here are the results:



As you can see here, we were doing well and around post 14 and 16, we took a turn for the worse.

Wait.

That said, where's Dan? How come he hasn't weighed in on this yet?

2009 is right around the corner.

Why would he?

Are you scared shitless of him or something from the way you keep bringing him up.

Post a link from the Canadian Research Council denouncing this editorial and I'll give you a posrep.

Besides, we can't all by Asynchro... Acynchri... that American-French guy.

Yeah darkening. That must be it.

It'd just be amusing. He's so quick to kick holes in other people's religious beliefs that it's fun to see his challenged. Especially with hard Scientific data. ope: