I found this helpful in learning how to deal with those who suffer the racial handicaps of not being white or American.
Our HR department actually has to make regular reports on how the company is doing in the diversity area. I end up doing the viewgraphs, sitting with one of the HR people. We'll do an org chart for each department, with numerical codes next to each person's name indicating Black, Hispanic, Amerind, Asian, Pacific Islander, mixed, yadda yadda. I actually feel kind of uncomfortable doing that. I keep turning to the HR person and saying "Aren't we supposed to have gotten to a point in society that we're not even supposed to notice this, apart from celebrating a person's heritage if it happens to come up? But in day-to-day dealings, not treat anyone differently?" And the bitch will say, "Que?"
Since asian people are, without exception, tiny, you're saying that you're light in the engineering department?
Jesureski W. Christmas! And I thought The Army has head-over-heels on the diversity bandwagon. We only do that kind of ethnic micro-management behind closed doors, when we make sure we promote the minorities ahead of the white males when it comes to Senior NCO populations. It used to be that black females were the ultimate "double dippers" being black and female. But if we add lesbian into the mix, now they can be "triple dippers" and write their own tickets.
Funny public service announcement/brainwashing segment I heard on the radio. Some kid asks his mom why there are so many "different" type of people in some neighborhood they are visiting. Then he asks why their neighborhood isn't so diverse. I don't remember what the mom says, but in reality it would probably be "because your daddy has a good job." Just sayin......
When it comes to diversity, the Asians aren't the group most people want to steer clear of.....just sayin'. But granted all Asians aren't angels - the convenience store I patronize most often just got busted for selling synthetic weed. He's out on bail now or whatever. That said, he's not shoving a gun in anyone's face so he's no threat to my life and limb. But generally here in Augusta Georgia the "diverse" neighborhoods have the majority of the violent crime, and few people live there unless financial considerations are the driving factor.
I'm baffled as to how this bullshit ever got started. If there is one definition of equality bastardised into political correctness it's this concept of workplace diverity. Over here some workplaces actually have ethnic minority quotas to fill (the BBC rumoured to be one of the biggest offenders in this regard). It's all just total bullshit. Equality is equality across the board. A person should get a job based on suitability on skills. Over here we already have legislation to prevent rcaial discimination in the workplace, so what are quotas and diversity bulshit useful for. Fact is that if the top candidates are all white then so be it, they arer the top people for the job. Conversely if the top choices are 14 black women and a cave dwelling Tunisian trogladyte, then give them the job instead. Really am sick of political correctness bullshit getting passed of as equality.
One reason we need diversity training in the workplace. See above. Here is the guy that makes racial and sexist jokes in the office and doesn't understand that its a problem. He doesn't understand the reason for it and wonders if the East Indian guy can bring some samosas in for everyone. Equality to him is ragging on minorities and maintaining the white man superiority. " Fact is that if the top candidates are all white then so be it, they are the top people for the job." Gimme a break with this shit! In his mind there must be no top minority candidates. Only the white man. None of those other folks could be any good.
Welcome to my world (when I was in the military that is). Agree, everyone should be given an equal chance. That's where it should end. But that is not the case in The Army. I can't speak for the other branches. They even have a "racial balance" board so that if qualified minorities aren't chosen, the promotion board voting members have to come up for justification as to why they were not chosen over their non-minority peers. For example, let's say twenty people are competing for two available slots, and their military records are virtually equal - same amount of education, PT scores, etc. If there is a minority competing (odds are there will be several) at least one of those two slots must go to a minority, be it black, female, whatever. Anything but a white male, basically. If the selection process came up short in minorities promoted, the "racial balance" board will crunch numbers and a minority will be selected one way or another. So this is not to say minorities don't have to compete - they still have to compete with each other, and sometimes the minorities are the majority. That said, if there are two white males competing among a total of ten total prospects and a white male isn't chosen, too fucking bad. The promotion board members don't have to justify shit. Thus minorities are over represented for senior NCO positions. Everyone knows it's a rigged game. This does not apply to Officer selections - I am strictly speaking about Senior NCO selections.
Dude, that's not what this thread is about. Diversity training concerns people that already work together.
That's total bollocks. So you're saying it is correct to hire, say, a latino over a white man if the former's resume and experience is half as good? I note that you totally ignored my second example, which certainly wouldn't be possible if the employer had decided in advance that only white people should be hired. What you are advocating is positive discrimination based on the presumption that all white employers are racist (which is, frankly, a bit insulting). We need to have quotas so that we can make sure ol' racist whitey don't give the job to his own, right? But, I can't help feeling, that both businesses and candidates lose out this way. Best people for the best job and that's all that matters. It applies the other way around as well. Over here we have quite a few ethnic minority employers. Should an employer of mostly indians fill their books with white and black people just to meet a quota "just because", or should they go with whoever is deemed to be the best candidate, from whatever background. Positive discimination does not equate to equality IMO. As for the other part of your post, it does that have nothing to do with quotas (and therefore positive discrimination), but rather racial sterotypes, with race laws already in place it should be required of any employer to discipline a member of staff for using such stereotypes in their dealing with other employees. Surely a deterrent is a greater way to stop racism in the workplace and drum the message home than nonsense training that so many people don't listen to?
Where are coming up with this crap? I choose to stay on the subject of the thread. You need to start a thread on Diversity in Hiring. But you still prove my point...you assume the latino has lesser skills and that all the white men have stellar qualifications.
Still, you have all you need for that other thread. This thread is fun because many here don't work in a corporate office environment and have amusing comments on the subject.
I'm sure there are top minority candidates, but why should they be systematically chosen "just because"? Anyway, I agree this should be a whole topic in itself. So sticking to diversity among people who are already hired - it is some straight-up pussy-assed bullshit, and you can quote me on that. We had it all the time in The Army, along with Consideration Of Others training. We already have a watchdog group of trained NCO's in the form of the Equal Opportunity staff which already jump on irony train because at most posts they run about 90 percent minority. Guess they couldn't find a qualified white male, even though they attend the formal two week course along with the minorities. That's why Equal Opportunity/diversity such a fucking joke.
Makes you wonder what happened to hiring the best available candidate. That is what I do. 95% white work force, with 5% natives. Am I racist for not hiring more natives? I certainly would if there were some around that weren't drunk, high or stoned 99.76% of the time.
I'm impressed that you're able to reach 5% from the remaining 0.24%. You must be making some kind of prodigious recruitment effort. But as somebody pointed out above, diversity training isn't about recruitment, but about workplace conflict. How do you get your white employees to a place where they understand that the natives you hired aren't a bunch of drunks?
