Do You Ever Expect the intensity of anti Trump rhetoric to escalate to violence?

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  1. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    Pull out of that nose dive, Sparky.
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  2. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    See post 119.
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  3. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    So North Korea doesn’t exist?
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  4. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    This is not just the boy.this is an argument tactic the right loves. You are talking about things and when they have nothing good to say they pull out the idea that communist Russia was leftist even though it was much more fascist conservative. They do it with racism when they pretend the Republican party of Lincoln is the same after the dixiecrats took it over when they fled from the dems. It is intellectual dishonesty and we have to stop playing into it. When people like the boy jump off that bridge it is time to raise the victory flag and forget the lies.
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  5. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    North Korea is a jumble of insanity that resembles no known system of government.
    Among many other insane things, they worship the corpse of Kim Jong Il, and his dad.
    Technically, the corpses are the rulers, and Lil Kim is their mouthpiece.
    Now, I admit, I haven't exactly read Marx cover to cover, but I'm betting he doesn't say "oh, and worship a corpse. A big fat smelly corpse. That's totally a thing I recommend that you do. So says me, Karl Fitzgerald Marx".
    Now, I could be wrong there, and I'm willing to be corrected on that point.
    But I don't think I am.
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  6. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    No true Scotsman, right?
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  7. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Oh, you said NOTH Korea.
    No, that doesn't exist.
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  8. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Nope, I said go ahead and correct me.
    I'll wait.
  9. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    I choose not to participate in an off topic tangent which serves to distract from the subject at hand.

    The continued existence of Communism as a governing paradigm has nothing to do with this subject.
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  10. Dinner

    Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

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    Stalin, Mao, a look Pit, and the members of the Kim family were all far left and all did an impressive amount of politically motivated killing so get out of here with simpleton nonsense like that.
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  11. Quincunx

    Quincunx anti-anti Staff Member Administrator

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    So much for @Federal Farmer’s adventures in non-partisanship. We’re back to “all liberals are Stalin.” :sigh:
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  12. matthunter

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    If crosshairs on a map and then Gabby Giffords getting shot can't be linked (Palin's own words and a followup accusation that drawing such a connection was "blood libel") then fuck this outrage over Maxine's words, ill-advised as they are.

    We DO need to confront Republicans. Peaceably and legally - which was in fact done at Red Hen. Otherwise they'll live in a fucking echo chamber where no-one ever says "hey, dude, this policy of yours will literally kill me/cost me my job/majorly fuck me over" and they don't ever see the victims.

    BTW, anyone on the Gunforge side who has ever sided with the crowds showing up outside folk's homes or offices with open-carry weapons can fuck right off if they try to manufacture outrage at this.
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  13. cpurick

    cpurick Why don't they just call it "Leftforge"?

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    The question presumes that the rhetoric is not carefully controlled signalling. Sure, individuals say whatever they may, but elites decide what gets propagated.

    In a movement founded on mob-rule, the-end-justifies-the-means, and a propaganda arm that tells the masses what to care about, there's always the risk that wounded elites could start the dog whistles for human sacrifices.

    And all the evidence is that the left is pretty fucking wounded right now.
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  14. Dinner

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    You read Nova claiming the left is always good and the right is always bad as believable? F2F pointing out that such a claim is complete nonsense seems off topic and partisan to you? It seems like a statement of fact and so nonpartisan to me. That such a statement of fact makes you feel threatened and triggered tells us more about your mindset than FF's.
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  15. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    You’re the one that started bringing all of this up.
  16. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    I’m sorry, did I say that? I’ll wait for the link proving this.
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    Quincunx anti-anti Staff Member Administrator

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    “The left” and “the right” are abstractions which are rendered meaningless when you try to stick American progressive liberals in the same basket as communist dictators.
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  18. Quincunx

    Quincunx anti-anti Staff Member Administrator

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    Here’s a tip for being less partisan: when you see a comment about “the right” you don’t always have to leap to their defense with a “Oh yeah? But what about STALIN!” It’s ok to let that shit slide every once in a while. :yes:
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  19. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Can you quote me saying all liberals are Stalin, yes or no?
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  20. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    It's a smoke grenade to throw into the room, because the right has literally nothing else to defend their ideas with.

    If they had "our ideas are good", they'd use "our ideas are good".
    They don't use "our ideas are good", they use "yeah, our ideas are shit, but your ideas are worse!!".
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  21. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Now what do I win?
    :bailey:
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  22. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    @Nova claimed that the right is or wants to commit genocide, I’m not supposed to call bullshit on that and we’re all supposed to ignore where real genocide came from? I guess we’re just supposed to sweep that under the rug and never talk about it ever again.
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  23. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Nope, that's not what's being said.

    It's satire for something else.
    Read it again, and concentrate reeeeaaal hard.
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  24. Quincunx

    Quincunx anti-anti Staff Member Administrator

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    I think @Nova posted what she did to illustrate a point, not to make a serious claim that the right is dead set on genocide.
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  25. cpurick

    cpurick Why don't they just call it "Leftforge"?

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    Why? Did "American progressive liberals" suddenly stop buying Che Guevara shirts and flags??? Is Marx suddenly out of fashion?

    The same segment of society always thinks their communists are much better than all the communists who came before.
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  26. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    A Che Guevara t-shirt killed my dad.
    :cry:
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  27. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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  28. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    I agree with all of that.
    Which is why I'm also for tearing down confederate memorials.
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  29. Quincunx

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    No, you’re thinking of leftist radicals. They and the liberals may be in agreement on a few issues, but the radicals prefer to work outside of the existing system, and practice a more direct form of democracy, so that they are electoral non-factors most of the time.
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  30. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    No she didn't. Read it again very closely.
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