Fla. deputy suspended over rough arrest

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  1. Techman

    Techman Still smilin' Deceased Member

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    No, but you can choose to leave. And you can choose to lobby to get a law changed...but if you choose to disobey it just because you disagree with it, don't expect anyone to hear your whining about it.

    Rebel all you like...but if you choose to rebel against folks who carry pepper spray, tasers and Glocks, your "rebellion" will be a short one.

    When/if pot becomes legal, so be it...it will be the will of the people.

    Pardon me if I don't hold my breath. :garamet:
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    So was the superior who disciplined this particular cop a young punk too? Sorry, but using your logic, if the cop was right then he wouldn't have gotten in trouble. HE was wrong. HE broke the rules. HE abused his power.
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  3. Techman

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    I agree he was an asshole...but he broke no rules. Other than a jerk....publically.
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    No, it shows the superior is an incompetent leader who sold out his officer to avoid a press shitstorm.
  5. Techman

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    Yep.
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    Tex Forge or die. Administrator Formerly Important

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    I don't even smoke pot Techie, I just think it should be legal. And I'll support anyone who campaigns for it, within reason.

    I still don't trust the cops, and I never will.
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    Personally, I know when I choose to break the law I know if I get caught I will more than likely get a ticket (depending on the cop :?:).

    So do I think it is unfair that I would get a ticket on my wedding day or say the day I am having a miscarriage (which was an example here somewhere), or the day I go into labor and try to get to the hospital. Yes, will I take up the last two examples in a court of law or at the very least with his/her supervisor? Hell Yes.

    I choose to break the law, if I don't like the law I can try to change it, if I do nothing about it my own damn fault. I may get a ticket.

    I have a beer or more than just one and I decide to drink, I get pulled over its my own damn fault not the cops. ;)

    I may be able to handle driving at insane speeds, yes, but the reason we have insanely low speed limits is because of the people that can't handle doing 100 on the highway. Do we have reason's for having low alcohol tolerance levels, yes, because of the people who can't handle their liquor than drive anyways.

    Do I like cops, not particularly, :shrug: but mainly because even when I haven't done something wrong I always FEEL like I have when I'm around one.




    Oh and aren't they trying to make it a law that you have to have that certain kind of mercury light bulb and no other in your house. In fact Evenflow had a thread on how toxic those light bulbs can be. :?:
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  8. Tex

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    Yep, this officer with a history of abuse couldn't possibly be the problem, idiot.
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    Those folks have to deal with the scum of society on a regular basis...so we don't have to. They regularly deal with combat situations and then have to go home and act like nothing happened so they're families don't freak.

    I respect cops...they are no better or worse than anyone else and have to deal with crap...every traffic stop is a potential deadly force issue and crazies abound.

    I rarely encounter a cop...but they get courtesy they are due when I do.
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    Ummm... If you're having a medical emergency around here(TN) and they pull you over, you're either going to be going into the back of the police car or an ambulance.
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    Then he shouldn't have been on duty.
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    That "history of abuse" is about as meaningful as your claims to not be a punk.
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    Did you read the thread? This isn't this cop's first run in with abusing people. You should go to work for the FBI, you're quite the profiler. Afterall, you've been able to figure me out based on a few posts on a bbs. Get out there and use your gift rainman.
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    I'd lay odds that even Elwood has a few such complaints against him.

    Every cop does.
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    72 ya definately 72 toothpicks....
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    When did I say I didn't respect them and "give them the courtesy they are due"??????????????????????????????????????????????

    If you are going to quote me read the whole thing. I even made a joke about flirting with a cop :D I will give that courtesy to both male and female cops.

    I was just saying that I am not comfortable around cops, hence I do not like to be uncomfortable and therefore do not particularly like cops.

    What is your problem with that? :shrug:
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    In this isolated instance we have a cop who was caught on camera going over the line with a woman he thought was putting him on who happened to be telling the truth.

    The officer also roughed up a civilian who saw him verbally abusing a female in public. (Hmmmm pattern emerging perhaps? Female issues?)

    Anyway, while I fully sympathize with the difficulty of cops doing their jobs properly in the face of disrespect, non-co-operation and outright hostility, I think they have to understand that they are going to be held to a high standard of conduct in their interaction with people and that they are going to fall hard when they fail to meet that standard.

    In this case, the cops comes across as an arrogant bully who might make a good leg breaker for a loan shark, but I don't think there should be any room for people who think a badge gives them immunity from second guessing or the right to say and do anything in the course of "doing their job."

    One thing that I suspect will happen at some point, is that this guy will get his ass royally kicked outside of the job. That's usually what happens to bullies who get by with being bigger and stronger than other people. What they don't know realize is that some of the most nasty hand to hand fighters in the world are people to whom you wouldn't give a second glance.

    I say "off the job" for that prediction because whatever their feelings about cops, I think most of us respect them in general because of the authority and responsiblity that goes with the job not to to try it. A cop might get his ass kicked in the line of duty, but unless the circumstances are really extreme, the law is going to crack down hard on anyone who does it.
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    As was stated, the cop could have followed her to the hospital and into the man's room, thus providing escort for her and safety for the public.
    Then, after she got to be with her father and say goodbye, he could have handed her all the tickets he had written out for her for all the traffic violations she made.
    See? No harm, no foul and no getting out paying for being so reckless while driving. And he's not believing her sob story or ignoring his duties.
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    "Putting him on"? She'd just committed a felony.
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    And it's not his job to follow her to the ER. In fact, if she's as distraught as you say, she's got no business driving.
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    It isn't my problem.
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    I think you are misunderstanding Tech. He was trouncing Tex for typecasting ALL cops as folks who could not be trusted and couldn't get a job anywhere else.
    And I happen to agree with Tech on this one - Tex is showing his inexperience and bias with police by claiming all are bullies.
    This isn't the the opening years of the twentieth century when the police were bullies and feared for good reason. But the time of police using rubber hoses and other means of "persuasion" are the exception and not the rule. Police cadets have to undergo a battery of psychological tests before they are allowed to graduate carry a badge. Doesn't mean a few bad apples won't slip through; but they are the exception, not the rule.
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    I'm sure everyone remembers the botched raid that put 39 bullet holes in an innocent black lady in Atlanta. It wasn't the first time.

    I'm sure those black women thought the police would never be a problem for them either.

    AJC