Does Arya realize all those hangings are her fault? On the other hand, if it's Lannister troops being hung, it's probably a good thing from her perspective.
I caught up to this past week's episode yesterday. The exchange between Daenary's personal guard (I don't know his name) and that masked chick giving a tattoo to the guy's ass (I don't know her name either) was a little...how would I put it...odd. It seemed like an out of place conversation and maybe something more important in the books, but while looking for the person who stole the dragons, it seemed like a scene where, well I am just a bit confused as to why it was even put in. Anyone shed a bit of light on it without giving away too much of what happens? Also, wouldn't it have been better if those sorcerers from the house of the undying told Daenarys someone else had the dragons and they recovered them instead of admitting they stole the dragons? Are those guys and the masked chick from the same group? And I am not sure where this is going, but it seems like the house of the undying want to use Daenary's dragons, but they are also scaring her at the same time. At this point in time in the books, does the audience know more about the house of the undying than has been shown on TV?
$corp is right... That was weird. This dude saved her and her Dothraki from sure death... If they wanted to nurture her dragons to maturity and possibly help prepare her to re take the throne in exchange for her helping the Qarth dude become king, why not just ask her?
Yeah, the changes are becoming more apparent every week. And they are having ripple effects spreading out from minor things.
None of GRRM's characters are purely good or evil and he deliberately makes them all shades of grey. BTW in the book Arya spends all of her time in the kitchens and never meets Tywin (she is cup barer for Tywin's brother though if memory serves). In season 1 the series only deviated from the books in small ways but now the TV series is going completely off the reservation and doing its own thing completely different from the books.
Villagers; they're in the river lands so those are Tully villagers. The books are very explicit about how brutal and pointless the torture is. They torture them mostly for info about the Brotherhood without Banners and to find out if the peasants have any gold or valuables but also to see if they have any information about where Arya went.
Oh, I'd have to disagree there. None of them are perfect, but a rare few are very noble (mostly from the Stark clan), and some of them have no redeeming qualities whatsoever. One in particular from the books is about as rotten as a human being can get.
The Hound apparently has a little bit of a soft spot for Sansa. He calls her by a pet name "little bird," and you may remember how from the first season there was a moment when Joffrey made Sansa look at her father's head on a spike and was taunting her. Sansa seemed tempted to try to push Joffrey to his death. The Hound caught that she was thinking about it and stopped her from attempting it, knowing that no good would come of the attempt. Cersei would only openly admit Joffrey and the other two are her children with Jaime to those who already know the truth. Last season, she had no probably confirming the truth to Ned Stark. The scene in the most recent episode was with Tyrion. The show makes it fairly clear that Tyrion has long known about "twincest." It's not as clear to me if Tywin knows. Jorah Mormont. He is the son of the Lord Commander of the Night's Watch, for what it's worth. I think it was a largely original creation of the show. I don't really remember the character from the books. The books are told from the point of view of various characters. So any scene up to this point that doesn't have at least one of the following characters in it is probably a brand-new creation of the TV show writers: Ned, Cat, Jon, Arya, Sansa, Bran, Tyrion, Dani, Davos and Theon. I think it's more that in reading 1,000 page books, there is more time to elaborate on things and focus on various details, whereas in the TV show there are so many things to try to process that you would get lost in the details. Just talking about things that have been shown on the TV show but that you might not have picked up on amidst the five gazillion plotlines: The bulk of the world of Game of Thrones does not believe in magic. As Maester Luwin said in one scene, there used to be all these different types of beings and spells, but they've been gone for so centuries. There was a red comet in the sky that people took to mean different things. The interpretation Osha put to it was that dragons -- and therefore magic -- were both coming back into the world. The 13 thought of the Undying as charlatans. The Undying person we saw apparently does have some magical power(s). If I were to guess, it would be the Mountain, the Hound and Ser Barristan Selmy. (We haven't seen Ser Barristan this season, but he was the head of the Kingsguard. We last saw him when Cersei forced him to retire against his wishes, and he was like, "I could cut down the five of you where you stand." And he could have too.) I think it's safe to say that the Undying guy and the richest guy in Qarth may have differing agendas from each other, and differing agendas from nurturing Dani's dragons so that she can eventually take the Iron Throne. I also think it's safe to say that mystical types often don't take the most straightest path, ask straightforward questions or just tell people directly what they need to know. (See Dumbledore, Gandalf, Yoda, Morpheus, etc.)
Barristan Selmy is the only certain one. He's still a force even at 70 yrs old. The Mountain is a possibility, but he's all freakish size and brute strength. I'm not sure Jaime would respect him as a swordsman. The same applies to The Hound. In the book, Jamie mentions the Cleganes and Greatjon Umber as being stronger than him, but that's not the same as being a better fighter. If Jaime was including people who he has known that are no longer alive, then some of the old Kingsguard like Arthur Dayne would be candidates. Maybe even Rhaegar Targaryen himself. Bronn might be a match for Jamie, but I doubt Jamie is aware of his existence. Another one might be Loras Tyrell. Jamie recognizes him as a better lance, but is less clear on his swordsmanship.
Are they her fault? Before she did anything, the Lannisters were torturing and executing people. It's another detail that probably got buried amidst a lot of other goings-on, but as Tywin mentioned in the latest episode, they are looking for a group called the Brotherhood without Banners. They have been IIRC hanging anyone suspected of helping the Brotherhood out.
Theon continues to get dissed... Robb Stark finally tap-dat-ass! ... and Danerys Targaren has the exact same conversation with Jorah Mormont for the 3rd time. 2 episodes left and it seems like almost nothing happened this last episode. So Ariya escapes Harrenhall with creepy-third-person-pedophile-assassin-dude. I don't know about J'qen H'gar... There's something about the way he stared at Ariya when he was locked up that really disturbed me. Maybe it was foreshadowing or just bad acting, but I don't quite trust him to keep her safe. ... and I was right. Jon Snow sucks as a Steward. He sucks as a Ranger. What will he do? Who knows. Just to clarify... Are all of the Knight's Watch who were beyond the wall now dead or just the sub-group that Mormont sent Jon with? I know the smaller group that found the Obsidian Weapon Artifacts are still alive, but what about the larger group?
Don't forget Robb arresting his mother for sending the Kingslayer off with Brianne to be traded for the Stark girls (as far as she knows). Glad that Robb finally tap-dat-ass!!! I think he's just a creepy dude in general, but his "if a man do this, you must obey..." seemed quite open-ended and likely means future trouble for Arya! Isn't it obvious? If he's inept at everything, he's obviously being groomed for MANAGEMENT! I think it's only the sub-group that Jon was sent out with, aside from Halfhand, who are dead. I'll bet Jon is wishing that he'd tapped dat Redhaired Wildling ass now! Next week--Battle scenes!!!!!
Maybe I wasn't paying attention closely enough, but I don't think Arya has yet escaped Harrenhall. I think she just has made plans to, and has hipped Gendry and Hot Pie (the fat boy) that they are about to blow that taco stand. In fairness to Jon, pretty much every Ranger sucks this far from the Wall compared to the Wildlings. For instance, the Halfhand has been described as a supreme bad-ass, and the Wildlings were apparently able to take him pretty easily. Plus, in Jon's case, he was surrounded. At that point, what could he do? Of course, Jon put everyone in that position by not just killing Ygritte initially, but can't really blame the guy. It is hard to argue that you should put a woman to death more or less in cold blood if you've grown up with HONOR as your watchword. Just the sub-group Mormont sent Jon with, minus the Halfhand. LOL indeed! It's especially funny because it's true on multiple grounds.
Well they walked thru the gate, unnoticed and untouched, as all the guards were dead and just posed as if they were alive (sorta). Not sure how much that makes them "escaped", but it's a start. Outside the walls without pursuit kinda means escaped to me...
I finally got tired of this show and cancelled HBO. Talk about a series that just goes round and round and round and nothing of significance happens. There are hardly any redeeming characters, and all of the battles take place off-screen. Peter Dinkage is awesome, but it's not enough of a reason to continue paying to watch this boring show. I'm done!
You didn't see Robb tap-dat-ass? You couldn't hold out 2 more weeks? This Ep was low in events, but things are set up for a shitstorm now. I'm canceling HBO once the last Ep is on my DVR.
I haven't even seen the last two episodes yet. I just can't bring myself to watch them, I'm too bored.
Hmmmm... You're the second person who has read the books claim that Ariya hasn't escaped yet. A guy at the office, who has read the books was sure she hadnt escaped yet, but Ari, Gendry and Hot Pie clearly walk through the gates littered with dead guards. This leads me to believe that something completely awesome and shocking happened in the book that was only glanced over on the show. I'll give it a week and if there is no further clarification, I want to be spoilers on Ariya's book escape.
This is actually pretty well done. The group The National has used the lyrics from the book and created their own music score for "The rains of Castamere". The song will be featured on upcoming episodes of A Game of Thrones. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn2l2_v6Ur8&feature=player_embedded#! I'm kind of hoping they get another major band to do the The Bear and the Maiden Fair as well.
One of the best medieval battle scenes I've seen yet! I just wish Joffrey ate a sword . Hopefully he's being saved for a truly awesome death...
