Game of Thrones, Season 7 (Spoilers)

Didn't mean to imply that I was gushing about the episode. I did enjoy it, but I did choose to ignore a bit to get there. It is obvious this is a different show than this was the six seasons before this one. The producers, not HBO are ready to move on and I get the feeling that they don't want to step on GRRM's toes before he can get his last few books out. I have a choice to accept this now or move on to a new show abd accept some contrivances.

Come to think of it that picture show a lot of ravens flying above so Bran seems to be busy.

Before Jon pulls himself out of the water, Longclaw's eyes open.

Yeah...no. It's water splashing on the hilt as Jon pulls himself up.

https://gfycat.com/fr/gifs/detail/CleanAccurateEmu

I hope someone leaks the two hour long season finale.

Was that legit or fan made?

The season finale is 81 minutes, not 120.

I'm not sure. I first saw it a while ago on FaceBook.

I thought it was a legit HBO teaser poster.

I'm leaning toward it being legit. I'd seen it well before anyone could have known about Viserion's fate.

So I'm thinking Viserion (that's a dragon name?) will be breathing minty fresh poofs of cotton candy in the next episode in a strategic miscalculation by the cold-water gang.

Legit and released before the start of the season.

That is why at poly I got disgruntled when whiners complained when I said one of the dragons would die and be raised as a zombie. They claimed it was a spoiler but, come on, they released an official poster of the Night King riding a zombie dragon before the season even started.

i can live with westeros' fast travel system. what's questionable are the tactical decisions. i mean, surprise and all... but jon's first words after the arrival of dany's air force should have been 'burn that guy!'

i really didn't get who uncle benji is. WTF? maxima deus ex machina? or did i just forget about something there?

Think he went walkabout beyond the wall in season one. He's been biding his time.

Season 7 has been full of leaks. I saw it a while ago on the webz and immediately thought it was fake. I think someone knew this was coming and put it out there. No way HBO would spoil their own show like this. I've never seen that poster on anything associated with HBO.... Despite the addition of their logo on the bottom (easily faked).

Yeah, Vanity Fair says it's fake.

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywoo...son-7-episode-6-dragon-dies-zombie-ice-dragon

Spoilers for the whole season came out ages ago, I've been spoiled on everything up to this point through reading someones "speculation" before the season started.

Shame, because I really wish I could have seen the next episode without knowing what is coming.

“I did not start to write slower over the years,” the American author explained. “I was working on the first book for six year and four years on the second one. Fantasists who release their novels every year, do not offer books of large volume. These are not 1.5k pages like mine, but, for example, 500. In addition, I have not become younger. Age does not add enthusiasm.” http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/grrm-on-game-of-thrones-i-dont-have-time-to-watch-game-1798326792

Well that's not good news to hear.

My guess is the books will build on that character more where as in the tv show they streamline everything to the bare essentials. Frankly, the quality of the writing has gone down since they ran out of source material.

I am hoping for Clagan-bowl and Theon finally rescuing his sister though the preview doesn't show any hints of those. Oh, and the others better take the wall or I am going to be pissed. Seven years worth of build up is enough and now they need to get on with it.

The title of the season finale is The Dragon and the Wolf so maybe we will finally get some Jon and Dany incest sex going. Oh, and no leaks yet but I am hoping Little Finger becomes a face in Arya's bag too.

I bet it is just another R+L=J flash back though. Maybe Bran finally gets around to telling Jon when he isn't warging ravens or hanging out.

His uncle is in a Limbo state like the hound.

Game of Thrones has had episodes titled The Wolf and the Lion, The Lion and the Rose and The Mountain and the Viper. All of those had members of one house fighting the other. The Dragon and The Wolf sounds more like a Stark fighting a Targaryan, so unless something goes horribly wrong between Dany and Jon in less than 70 minutes, this will no doubt be a flashback of some sorts.

Winterfell.

Winter is Coming.

There must always be a Stark in Winterfell.

With 7 episodes left, will we ever get a meaning to these phrases? Are they anything more than vanity and egotistical claims? I suspect not.

Melisandre, The Red Woman once said to Lady Selise of House Baratheon "There are only 2 gods. A lord of light, warmth and life and a lord of darkness, cold and death." This show has shown us many miracles performed by followers of the Lord of Light, R'hollor is his name according to the stop motion comics in the blu-ray special features, but can anyone tell me about The Great Other, who's name has been lost to time... The Lord of Darkness. Incidentally, The White Walkers are called "The Others" in the books. We know the Night King was the first White Walker and he was once a First Man who had a piece of Obsidian shoved into his heart by The Children of The Forest. The last time we saw a Children of the Forest was when Hodor died. One of them took out a weapon of some sort and charged it with ice energy and it exploded like a grenade into fire that killed a bunch of wights chasing Bran and Meera. Could The Song of Ice and Fire be a battle between an ice deity and a fire deity with the fate of the Andals and the First Men in the balance? Could the fact that there were no Starks, descendants of The First Men, in Winterfell for a time be significant?

What if we never get the end to these books? What if the show is all we'll ever get?

I think if GRRM suddenly dropped dead, there's probably an emergency plan for Stephen King and/or JK Rowling to finish them.

You think it might be the Clegane Bowl, with The Hound representing Daneris and The Mountain representing Cersei?

I am hoping. The hound has new zombie fighting experience which he can put to good use.

Of course, it probably won't happen.

I agree that direct confrontation between brothers is ahead, probably next year, and they've been telegraphing Sandor freezing up when faced with fire, so he'll probably need to overcome his paralyzing fear.

But imo a title of Dragon and Wolf could just as easily foreshadow them hooking up, involve the big reveal about Jon (who's both in one) or some other more benign conflict, I don't think past use of similar titles necessarily implies there'll be a battle between the two Houses or two Heads of House.

And Arya's been behaving like such a spaz the past few installments, it finally dawned on me that she's probably playing Littlefinger (and the audience), and not just being a hateful, spiteful, ass to Lady Stark. At least, I'm hoping.

I read something online somewhere that theorized the same thing. Arya has the ability to disguise herself and sneak around undetected, so why go into Littlefinger's room as herself unless she wants to make him think that she's "just a little girl" who doesn't really know what she's doing. The same thing theorized that her feud with Sansa is also part of her plan to throw Littlefinger off guard.