Going away party for Paladin

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  1. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    "cultural" issues?

    such as what?
    who and how other people love?
    who and how they hate?

    what is the culture regressives want to preserve in your mind?
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  2. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Kattty Kay hasn’t called me a Nazi or implied that I’m a pedophile, @Diacanu has, that’s the difference. You want to go with someone on this board? Okay, take @Rimjob Bob , we disagree on economic matters, but guess what? He doesn’t resort to name calling towards me and I don’t resort to name calling towards him.
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  3. Jenee

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    It's not just this board.
  4. MikeH92467

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    The "cultural issues" are mostly 1) exaggerated 2) completely imaginary
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  5. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    hmmm

    not really seeing how this doesn't fit you, UA, or Paladin; if not like a glove, at least a well chosen mitten?
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  6. Jenee

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    UA is more of an anarchist, less of a fascist.
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  7. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Do tell. I’ll happily explain.
  8. Jenee

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    Why? You'll just deny it.
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  9. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Stop lying.

    1.You're not a Nazi, but Nazis have made you their willing dupe.
    Renfield serves Dracula, but he's not a vampire himself.

    2. You're not a pedophile, but you've called trans people pedophiles while working for a corporation that had a pedophile mascot.
    You aren't complicit in that, but you are a hypocrite for ignoring that, and smearing other innocent people with that label.
    So you can fuck right the fucking fuck off with your innocence abused routine with that.
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  10. 14thDoctor

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    Oh my, no. Maybe he wants anarchy insomuch as he's personally left to do as he pleases, but he still wants a strong government keeping everyone else in line so as not to inconvenience him. Do you not recall his complaints about the libertarian paradise of Mexico? :async:
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  11. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    That’s because you have a cartoonish understanding of what we believe in. Also, that’s not the definition I would go with, but you also have a cartoonish understanding of what fascism is.
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  12. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Then why ask? Do you want to know a little about me or do you not? Try me.
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  13. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Because if we REALLY understood it, we'd agree with it, and become it, right?
    People who disagree can't possibly have their heads screwed on right.
    :dayton:
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  14. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    Not my definitions (woulda thought that I linked to the source was a clue?) yet here you are, being the cartoon...

    sorry sweetcheeks, but the three of you have consistently shown yourselves to be getting at least B+ on this checklist. Couple that with your pavlovian anti-progressive reactions to just about any topic (but you're NOT REPUBLICANS, we get it), and, well...
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  15. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    Jan 6th was fascism. No ifs, ands or buts.

    Getting your news from fascists might not make you a fascist, but definitely increases that chance.
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  16. Uncle Albert

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    I'm not sure YOU recall, if that's what you take away from it. Yes, security of person and property is a basic function of society, and I don't see much point in calling it a nation if it fails that basic measure.

    Yes, I believe in minimal government intrusion into individual lives, no I do not accept the false choice of "all or nothing" when it comes to that intrusion.
  17. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Sorry, the definition you chose. Produce this checklist and have it be from a non-biased source.
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  18. Uncle Albert

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    Fascists aren't tolerant of free speech or dissenting opinions, and give themselves special permission to use force against anyone not loyal to their side.
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  19. Jenee

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    I have. you don't answer and accuse me of trying to trap you into ... something.
  20. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    Not sure what list Spaceturkey is looking at, though I'm sure it's solid.

    Here's one that Umberto Eco put out. Eco grew up in Italy during the rise of Mussolini and had spent quite a bit of thought on the topic.
    1. The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”
    2. The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”
    3. The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”
    4. Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”
    5. Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”
    6. Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”
    7. The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”
    8. The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”
    9. Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”
    10. Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”
    11. Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”
    12. Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”
    13. Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”
    14. Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”
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  21. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    CRT paranoia, "Gender Queer" being banned, "Maus" being banned....

    January 6th.
    Kyle Rittenhouse.
    James Alex Fields.
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  22. Uncle Albert

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    Are public school teachers tolerant of free speech and dissenting opinions, or are they abusing their position of power to instill their personal brand of activism and social conditioning?

    And yes, the shitbags who attacked Kyle Rittenhouse were indeed engaging in fascist tactics. They don't get a pass because you agree with whatever they pass off as political beliefs.
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  23. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Would teenage you want to hear flat-earthers jabber on in Geography?
    Creationists in biology?
    Holocaust deniers for World War II history?
    Truth isn't democratic.
    You've got to cut it off somewhere.
    Someone's "opinion" is gonna get short shrift.
    Otherwise, you're gonna be hearing every creation myth of every religion, and every crackpot conspiracy theory, and every delusional alternate history, all fucking day, and you won't be taught the critical thinking skills to be able to sort through the bullshit.
    We have people we trust to sort through the bullshit, but no matter what they pick, someone's gonna cry.

    "But...but...I wanna raise my kid to be in the Klan!! :weep:".
    Do it at home, fuckhole.
    :shrug:
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  24. 14thDoctor

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    Is the concept that it's on the individual to worry about their own security and the security of their property really so different from the concept that it's on the individual to worry about their own health or food or housing? The government needs to step in and make things right if your stereo gets stolen, but not if you have a heart attack? :chris:
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  25. 14thDoctor

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    Wasn't the first person Rittenhouse shot a mentally unstable homeless person that threw a plastic bag at him?

    Weren't the other two acting under the assumption (rightly or wrongly) that Rittenhouse was an active shooter and only trying to stop him from killing more people? Is trying to stop an active shooter a "fascist tactic" now? :chris:
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  26. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Stopping murder is fascism, just like criticism is "silencing".
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  27. Steal Your Face

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    1. Not exclusively fascist.
    2. I don't reject modernism, I embrace it. Remember all of the times people accused me of worshiping the founding fathers? You can't have it both ways.
    3. Vague.
    4. Both parties do this. The "trust the science" and "I am the science" people have proven this. They tried to shut down Joe Rogan, for example.
    5. Again, both parties are guilty of this.
    6. Both parties, again.
    7. Russian collusion, the pee tape, the Steele Dossier, lock her up, lock him up, two impeachment trials in one term.
    8. Both parties do this as well. Jan. 6th was a plot to overturn the election and they almost succeeded, Also Jan. 6th, democracy prevailed and the votes were certified. The Republicans aren't going to win in the mid-terms.
    9. This one I agree that Republicans are guilty of this.
    10. Again, both parties hate certain elites.
    11. Everyone values heroism to some degree or another.
    12. Yep, this is the evangelical wing of the Republican party. I'm not very religious and don't believe in that type of stuff.
    13. This is most certainly Trump.
    14. I'm sure teaching kids that the founding of America was in 1619 doesn't apply at all, no sir.
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  28. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    this is the source of that list...

    Stanley G Payne


    so explain the bias?
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  29. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    because the teenager carrying an AR 15 in public isn't a reasonable perception of a threat, let alone a cause of escalation...
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  30. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    Christ... you not only prove Demi's points, you prove them about yourself.
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