His name was Hunter Biden

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  1. Tererune

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    Have you met the dem party?
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    From Politico:

    No chance of Biden pardoning his son, White House says

    President Joe Biden will not pardon his son Hunter if he is convicted of the charges against him, the White House said on Thursday.

    Hunter Biden has been charged with two misdemeanor tax offenses and a felony gun charge. When asked during her briefing whether there was any possibility that the president would eventually pardon his son, White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre on Thursday replied, “No,” and declined to comment further.​
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    Is there anyone out there who feels Cheeto Putin would not pardon his child for killing someone on fifth avenue in front of a live audience for being too close to them while too poor? There is a possibility that one of the pardon's on Trump's list for his next presidency is for his children for their participation in covering up his crimes and helping to overthrow the government.
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    Oh, and I say that safely knowing our two resident trump supporters would have to admit they read all my posts to respond.
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    Breaking:

    AG Garland appoints US Attorney Weiss (a holdover Trump appointee) Special Counsel in Hunter Biden probe.
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    I bet Garland gave him special directions to be much harder on Hunter than the other special counsels are on Trump, because that's exactly the sort of coward Garland is.
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    Maybe had Joe put in a good AG with a spine and not the disgusting worm Garland this would not happen. Instead he put Garland in to try and stop and play games with the Trump prosecution.

    Well, now he sees what happens when he puts a republican ally in as AG.

    That family deserves everything they get. If one of them gets pointlessly sacrificed in a vain hope that the republicans will be satisfied with Hunter, then maybe he will learn there is no co-operation with fascists. It is his fault for giving an inch to people who would only hang you for your concession. When Trump gets to be president it will be fun to see Joe and his boy swing from the gallows they helped to create because Joe wanted to co-operate with Nazis. At least Trump will make all the complicit Biden Bros pay for their cowardice. Maybe then they will fight back.
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    Now THIS is political, and particularly stupid. Not the prosecution, that’s entirely legitimate, but appointing Weiss as a special prosecutor. Weiss was already prosecuting Hunter Biden with more leeway than a regular or special prosecutor has. He didn’t have to consult with the local federal prosecutor before bringing charges in non-local districts, which is typical of special prosecutors, but he also didn’t have to write up a report detailing why he made his prosecution or declination decisions. Now he does. If Garland thinks the MAGAts are going to be happy with this just because it gives Weiss the same title as Smith and Hurr, he massively underestimates the willfulness of their ignorance. Some MAGAt attorney is going to figure this out and go on Newsmax in the next few days and suddenly it’s going to be “Garland Ties Hands of Hunter Biden’s Prosecutor” with absolutely zero regard for the hypocrisy of the fact that they were deliberately ignoring the fact of Weiss’s wide latitude in their complaints about him not being a special prosecutor.
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    Joe may be delusional enough to feel he might satisfy the MAGAts with this, and perhaps shut some people up about it. I think it is probably more that he is seeking to pull in real independents and never trumpers. I think he would get more out of going for the left, but Joe is a right winger. There are some people who are looking for an alternative to Trump, and they have a trhreshold that maybe they could be gotten by Joe if he sacrifices his son to a special investigation around the election.

    Pure MAGA seems to be at 40 percent or less of the republican party. I am not sure how many independents are MAGA, and I do not find them honest enough to admit to it if they were. I would imagine there are a bunch of independents like UA and FF who say they are not Trump supporters, but if shit is close they will abandon their lie in the voting booth. But there have to be some independents and never Trumpers he can get. I just do not see that as a very large number, but if he can at least convince them to stay home and not oppose him it is something.

    I also think this is good strategy to sort of steal this shit from congress. Without the special investigator you leave this up to the clownish congressional investigation. By this point Joe must know any shady deals he may have had are still firmly in the shade. Steal the reps thunder with a real criminal investigation and remove the excuse that the DOJ will not investigate Hunter since that is the biggest negative the repugs have got.

    Worst comes to worst Hunter sits in a non-violent federal prison for a couple of months until Joe pardons him on his way out the door, or after he is elected. Right now is the time to start so that charges can be filed and Hunter can be convicted for a pardon.
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    This is factually wrong. Weiss's investigation was already a real one, that's how charges got brought already. Making him a special counsel does nothing additional except require him to write up a report about his decisions.
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    Yes, that is your idea as a person with knowledge. The regular people are not going to see it that way.

    Also, I am not making any claims at how great the idea will work, and I said it would be better to try and get votes with good policy and not playing compromise games to try and fool a couple of dipshit independents and never trumpers.

    But do only take the one part you want to see of the argument and make that the whole statement because you cannot argue with the whole nuanced thought. You are too much on the tweeter.
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    Well, obviously this whole thing is tilted in Hunter Biden's favor.

    The only way for it to be fair is if Donald Trump gets to choose Hunter's defense attorney, too.
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    It is not going to be fair until Donald Trump gets to chose his execution method and then executes him without a trial. Then it might be fair as long as no democrat is around to hear it happen because they were all owned and poofed out of existence.

    It is just another lie that can only serve the right.
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    Was this before or after the sweetheart deal was announced because that makes a difference?
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    Serious question:

    Assuming the allegations against Hunter Biden are true, how does this in any way equate to the former President of the United States allegedly working to undermine and actively overthrow your country's democratic institutions? Institutions which, I may add, have stood for 247 years and have never come under the kind of domestic threat that was seen on January 6, 2021?
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    I completely agree with your point but in this particular statement I think 1861-1865 would like a word…
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    [Complete Side Note] Are Canadians taught why the White House is white? Is that kinda a pride thing (it should be IMO)?
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    I'd even go a step further:

    Assuming for argument's sake that the some version of the allegations against Hunter AND Joe Biden for which there has been even remotely evidence suggested in the face of various investigations supported by subpoena power is true -- which as I understand it is that Hunter got paid handsomely for being a nepo-baby by a corrupt company in Ukraine (which I think reasonable people would concede happened, other than the company being corrupt) and that he pressured Biden to shift the U.S.'s policy toward Ukraine in the 2010s on behalf of his corrupt client (which no evidence has surfaced of despite multiple witnesses having testified under oath and having access to Hunter's alleged laptop and having subpoena power), AND that Joe Biden in fact did intervene on behalf of the corrupt company (which again, no evidence has come forth to suggest that either), how is that in any way equate to the allegations against Trump that there is objective proof of in most cases, that grand juries were convinced that it was the right thing to do to bring charges against Trump and others, and that had the effect that you talked about in the original hypo?
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    I said domestic threat. It was the British (de facto Canadians, I guess) who burned down the White House.

    And, as far as I can tell, Congress was never attacked during the Civil War. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the first time the Confederate flag was ever flown in those halls was when a bunch of drunken trailer trash Trump-loving hillbillies broke into the Capitol building.
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    Then why were the charges leaked before the grand jury convened? I noticed nobody talked about that yesterday.
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    But that makes Trump innocent, right?
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    The country was never in any danger. The January 6th protest turned riot never was going to go anywhere. If it truly were an insurrection, they would have been more organized and they would have had guns. A real insurrection would not be so haphazard. This is language designed for maximum political effect and outcome. It’s very purposeful on the Democrats to try and scare the public into voting their way.
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    Trump is innocent, until proven guilty. Or did you forget that part?
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