His name was Hunter Biden

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    Biden's former lawyer tried to put pressure on the DoJ to try and get that sweetheart deal.
    They even found a way to blame it on Trump.
    Apparently Hunter was involved in Trump's impeachment.
    Still think this is a nothing burger? Remember, Joe Biden bragged about getting the prosecutor fired in Ukraine. Trump knew this and wanted information, that's what the "perfect phone call" was about. Democrats tried to impeach Trump over this when Trump was right to ask about this. Why the hell was Hunter Biden involved in Trump's impeachment?

    His lawyer tried to make it a constitutional crisis to convict Hunter of anything. They're basically trying to run out the clock on the tax charges and the gun charge.

    Then we get confirmation of what the IRS whistle blowers said, that they were being stonewalled from higher up when asking about Hunter Biden's business dealings that looked sketchy.
    Then there's the sweetheart deal that gave him blanket immunity and immunity for future crimes.
    Now, thanks to that judge, Hunter is facing trial with no plea deal and his former lawyer is likely to be a witness. What a shit show this is turning out to be.

    Oh and it turns out Hunter was staying at the White House for two weeks when all of the plea deal collapse was going on and when they found cocaine at the White House. Coincidence? Not likely.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...deal-time-cocaine-premises-staff-unaware.html
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    Yep.
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    Of course you do because you're a partisan hack.
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    Lemme guess, the version of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" you were read had the boy crying wolf forever, and ever, and ever, and ever, and the townspeople ran every time, until everyone died of old age, and then they just shoved a new shouting boy up on the hill, and did it all over again until the sun burnt out.
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    It's a huge nothing burger. It's a baseless smear campaign, the same type we've seen for decades now from lying Republicans. Nope, it wasn't Hillary's foundation that was corrupt, it passed every check with flying colors. It was Trump's. No, Hillary didn't unilaterally send Uranium to Russia, she was one person that had the signoff among 15, and none of it was allowed by law to leave North America. Seth Rich wasn't a leaker or a political hit. People in the Clinton orbit weren't murdered en masse. Enough with the constant bullshit.

    They drug the nation over an impeachment because a guy didn't want to admit marital infedility publicly, in the meanwhile Nixon got tens of thousands of American servicemen killed in Vietnam by sabotaging the Paris Peace Talks (so claims the person he sent there to do it), Reagan dealt with Iran and sent weapons there then dozens of people lied and committed perjury, many of whom were then pardoned when Bush Sr became President over the Iran-Contra affair. One guy got caught taking top secret materials out of a scif in his socks and was pardoned, and then we got the biggest crime ring yet in Trump.

    That's not being partisan, that's objective fact. All the times these politicians were screaming don't look at us, look at the other guys!

    Why would anyone believe them when they say they have proof now? Show it in court or STFU. Yes, Hunter should be looked at for tax crimes. His father already said he isn't going to pardon him. Even Comer has repeatedly said they can't trace any criminal acts to Biden. Then goes back to saying Biden is a criminal.

    Republicans lie. Lie and lie and lie and lie. They've gotten to the point they lie reflexively, they lie about storms and pandemics and climate change and crowd sizes and who they've sexually assaulted. Some of the most prominent Republicans are criminals, like Gaetz, or covered for criminals, like Jordan. They had a Speaker of the House who raped teenagers in our lifetimes, a War Hero who was corrupt beyond measure (and Trump pardoned), and a chair of the ethics committee who was a former car thief and committed insurance fraud.

    But thank god there are voters like you who keep them in power. They couldn't do it without the help of people like you.
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    And how is this any different than your mom working out a deal with the judge you had to go before? Also, isn't that one of the things you hire a lawyer to do? You know, make sure that you don't wind up in jail, or if you do, that it's for the least amount of time. Am I wrong here?
    Again, is that not what a lawyer is supposed to do?


    Okay, help me out here: Do you expect President Biden to be more loyal to the rule of law than his own family? (I would assume that you do, because that's what everyone should do in similar circumstances. We'll ignore if one thinks the laws he's being prosecuted under are just or not, as they can vary depending upon the actual circumstances.)

    Given all of that, do you not think that it is unreasonable to expect that there are circumstances where people would, rightly or wrongly, see Joe's connections to the DOJ as being a problem, even if Joe did his best to stay out of things? Because everybody in this situation is going to be second-guessing themselves. Members of the DOJ are going to be assuming that no matter what President Biden does, his actions are going to be scrutinized because they're worried that he might fuck them over for prosecuting their kid. President Biden, if he's a decent person, and I'll leave that up to the reader to decide, is going to have to wonder if he says something about implementing reforms to the justice system that the majority of Americans would agree with, people are going to think that the's only doing this because he hopes it'll keep his kid out of jail.

    :rofl: Right, this is at a time when the President's son is accused of having corrupt business dealings with Ukraine, and the President is funneling billions of dollars to Ukraine.

    Did Dan Oingo Boingo (or whatever that fucker's name is) mention this on his latest podcast?

    And exactly how many of these documents have you read?

    Well, yeah, if significant portions of the case are going to center around the plea deal, I can see that happening. Not seeing why this is worthy of mentioning.

    Standard practice for smart people when you're dealing with a criminal case that has broad political implications.
    Remind me again who was President when the investigations began?


    This is no different when you bring up Nancy Pelosi or other Democrat, when the discussion didn't really merit mentioning a specific individual or their political affiliation. Or, like the time when you responded to this thread about a nearly 40-year-old SNL sketch with a question about how Eddie Murphy is going to do on SNL in a couple of days. Doesn't have shit to do with anything, but since it's been brought up, you're getting railed with it.

    Right, this goes back to the fact that most people who'd done what Hunter did wouldn't be charged. Now, if you want to make the case that as a member of a highly politically connected family, he should be held to a higher standard than most Americans, I'm 100% in agreement with you. Let's just codify this into law so that there's less of a chance for anyone to wriggle out of it. That sound good to you?


    Does that sound like an unreasonable argument to you? Let's not forget, that by your own admission, you nearly died because you were drunk. Is that any different than fucking up your tax forms because you were fucked up?

    Side-effect of having a father who happened to be VP.

    And?
    A prosecutor who was said by multiple international organizations to be corrupt. Are all of them hapless puppets of Biden?

    You're neglecting the fact that as part of the "perfect phone call" Trump wanted Ukraine to say, not actually do, an investigation into Hunter Biden. If you're really serious about rooting out corruption, why wouldn't you demand a real investigation? I'll also point out that Trump tried to make claiming to have an investigation against Hunter, not actually doing one, a condition for giving Ukraine military aid. Do you want to argue that Ukraine didn't need military aid? :corn:

    Again, isn't that what a lawyer's supposed to do? I don't hear you objecting to Trump when he does shit like that.

    Carefully omitting that one of the main reasons why the majority of requests from IRS agents seeking to investigate into people who are wealthy and/or well-connected are denied 99% of the time because the IRS simply doesn't have the budget to do such things. I'd ask if you supported increasing money to the IRS, but we already know you don't.
    If Joe Biden can do it, so can anyone else in his position. Can we get you to support more money for the IRS to investigate, as well as more regulation on our elected leaders? Probably not.
    Yeah, so?
    What, specifically, sounds unreasonable to you about that?

    And the details of those activities are? Also, how many of those activities are things that would involve the President or other members of the US government acting inside or outside of their official capacities?

    Sounds reasonable to me. Do you want the DOJ doing the investigation or do you want someone hand-picked by the President (regardless of that President happens to be Biden, Trump, Harris, or other)?

    Remind me again how many Presidential kids have been brought up on Federal charges?
    Well, yeah, if you were Hunter, would you want your lawyer to argue differently?
    :yes:

    The coke was found in a part of the White House that is searched daily, and Hunter hadn't been in the White House the day the stuff was found (let alone the day before). Could it have been his? Sure, can't rule that out. But it was found in an area where lots of construction workers were routinely working, as well as the general public being allowed to tour under certain circumstances, so that's enough "reasonable doubt" in my mind to say that it might not have been his. Granted, I don't think that drugs should be illegal to begin with, so I'm not inclined to get all het-up that a baggie with coke was found in the White House. But I'm not at all certain WTF this has to do with if Biden should go to jail for tax fraud and lying on a gun form that he liked weed and nose candy. I mean, don't you think that such forms are an infringement on the right to own guns? So shouldn't that be your focus? Don't you think that you might be able to get people to object to such forms, regardless of if they like guns or not, by pointing out that you can be denied a permit for a gun if you smoke weed, and not if you drink booze? If you're going to ban one, shouldn't you ban the other? After all, we do place severe restrictions on people caught driving drunk, regardless of if they kill or injure someone while they're driving drunk. If we're going to say you smoke weed (and weed really isn't any different than booze when it comes to things like the amount of cognitive impairment that it can do), you can't own a gun, shouldn't we also say that if you're going to drink booze, you can't own a gun?
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    Excuse me, excuse me, hate to be a pedant here, but..

    Cocaine hydrochloride!!
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    I actually think it is good to go after Hunter for not paying his taxes and weilding a gun while on drugs. Fucking rich creep could easily have paid his bills and certainly should not be playing with guns while coked out of his mind in drug fueled orgies. Gunfire is a hell of a way to fuck up a good drug orgy.

    Throw hunter in jail. I am actually good with his good deal going away. Send the dude to federal prison for a few months and get a good chunk of his money for not paying his taxes. Won't hurt Biden in the least, and I do not think hunter will die for a couple of months in the federal prison system. Send him to forced rehab too, and put him on some probation or something. He can afford it.

    What is wrong with any of that?

    I am for putting more rich powerful people and their kids into prison for not paying taxes. Do it to all of them. start fighting among yourselves to bring the tax laws down on each side.

    Fire the fucking shots and set that bitch off. Go ahead republicans, fucking do it and watch your social contract of not prosecuting these crimes disintegrate. Fuck hunter Biden so hard they retaliate with a vengeance because this social contract needs to be burned.

    Why the fuck are any of us opposed to them doing this to collect taxes from each other? Do not fight against your own self interests.
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    The announcement of the investigation Trump wanted was against Joe Biden, not Hunter.
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    Wow I'm glad I didn't vote for Hunter Biden
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    I didn't, my family didn't, and none of my family's neighbors did.
    My whole community is staunchly anti-Hunter at the ballot box.
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    Finally fucking got him!
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    I voted for him to pick up the coke from the dealer. Big fucking mistake. That is like asking FF's mom to pick up the meth.
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    And that assumes it’s Constitutional. Sixth Circuit says it’s not but that’s not binding in Delaware yet.
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    It's buried deep in the meme thread by now, but the quote goes something like "laughing at conservatives for being hypocrites is like laughing at an alligator for not wearing pants. The alligator doesn't care, and just wants to eat you".

    The conservative endgame is a white nationalist patriarchy ruled by guns and fear.
    Anything that gets in the way of that, they kick out of the way without batting an eye.
    All of the "infringement" and "law abiding" and "I love my country" shit is just Palpatine saying "I love democracy".
    Fucking ignore it.
    Ignore the shit out of it.
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    Fucking hell. Never lecture anyone about embracing propaganda slogans again.
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    Yeah, okay, Mister "no fault divorce is Satan".
    Go fuck a duck.
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    If only Hunter had crossed state lines and shot people, he might have got away with this.
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    Did Rachael Maddow tell you that?
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    Who the fuck watches Rachael Maddow (or really any talking head)? Lol
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    What do you have against ducks?

    He has a proper receptacle for his jiz and it is called @Jenee
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