I’m Done

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by Steal Your Face, Sep 2, 2022.

  1. matthunter

    matthunter Ice Bear

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    I know. I'm quite sure they remain consistent month on month.
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  2. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    And elected representative via democratic means would be called what? LOL.

    Look, you are wrong, you are committed to being wrong, and this shit is why people mock you here.

    People lied to you, you liked the lie, and you've made it part of your paradigm.

    But it's still a lie. And why? It's almost certainly because you are in the minority in your political opinions, and want justification for minority rule.

    We weren't the Arsenal of Constitutional Republicanism.

    Lincoln said government of the people, by the people, for the people.

    Jefferson said 'That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed...'

    Pretty obvious what they mean. We safeguard minority rights via our Constitution (at least in theory, in practice we routinely have failed at that).

    But there is no government without the belief in democracy, because that is the consent of the governed. Period.

    And if that is taken from us, the Founders told us what to do.
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  3. We Are Borg

    We Are Borg Republican Democrat

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    Wait, wait, wait.

    HOLD IT.

    I thought this thread was about Federal Farmer leaving?

    When did it become a discussion of republic vs. democracy?

    Lest we forget those dark times that this board was without the boy?
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  4. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    FF is giving off some real "technically it's ephebophilia" small L libertarian vibes.
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  5. matthunter

    matthunter Ice Bear

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    FF arguing his case be like:

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  6. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Admins, split this discussion off, and call it "FF's 'technically it's ephebophilia' thread"
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  7. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    No, I'm 100% correct. This country is a republic and always has been.
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  8. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Says the guy who lied about leaving.
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  9. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    So now you're saying we are not a republic?
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  10. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    A Democracy can be a Republic and vice versa. As with many countries, the US has systems at various levels which more closely fit each definition.
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  11. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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  12. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Yeah, we're not a direct democracy. We are a republic whose representatives are chosen through democratic means.
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  13. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    somebody kick this guy in the head

    he appears stuck on "stupid".
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  14. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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  15. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Who do you think you're arguing against when you try to make the point that you're not a direct democracy? No common definition of being a democracy requires being a direct democracy.
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  16. Rimjob Bob

    Rimjob Bob Classy Fellow

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  17. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    If you want to be a moron of course you have that option.

    Don't whine when you are called a moron though.

    You decided to be one.

    "I was an idiot to own the libs!"
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  18. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    How is it being a moron to point out facts?
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  19. The Original Faceman

    The Original Faceman Lasagna Artist

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    We're a representative democracy and you're a dumb Republican.

    I mean dumb republican. It's lower case cuz you're dumb and don't know proper grammar. As the system designed you to be.
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  20. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    BC points at stone on ground. "Rock."

    We smile and nod, "Yes, BC, it's an igneous rock."

    BC gets mad, shakes his head. "NO! ROCK!"
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  21. tafkats

    tafkats scream not working because space make deaf Moderator

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    It is not a direct democracy.

    It is, however, a democracy.

    It is also a republic.

    Saying "it can't be a democracy because it's a republic" is like saying "Saudi Arabia is a dictatorship, therefore it can't be a monarchy." Neither set's elements are mutually exclusive.

    And it has not escaped anyone's notice that "this is a republic, not a democracy," in addition to being factually incorrect, is one of the more common lazy ways to justify the fact that even though the people of this country vote to elect Democrats over and over again, our votes keep going into the twisty-turny Rube Goldberg crazy straw of our electoral system and Republican control comes out the other end.
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  22. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Change the constitution then. Hillary knew she had to win the electoral college, yet she didn’t and people are still butthurt over it.
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  23. tafkats

    tafkats scream not working because space make deaf Moderator

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    Jesus Christ.

    "The rules are this way" is not a moral justification for the rules being that way.

    And you know damn well that changing the constitution requires the people who currently have disproportionate power to consent to giving it up.
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  24. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    19th century FF- Change the constitution then. :bailey:

    Lincoln- Okay. :shrug:

    19th century FF- Time to kill Lincoln. :brood:
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  25. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    That assumes there is another setting or a possible different mode.
  26. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    Hasenpfeffer (Rabbit Stew)


    Ingredients


    ½ pound bacon, diced

    3 pounds rabbit meat, cleaned and cut into pieces

    ½ teaspoon salt

    ⅓ cup all-purpose flour

    ½ cup finely chopped shallots

    1 clove garlic, finely chopped

    1 cup dry red wine

    1 cup water

    1 tablespoon chicken bouillon granules

    1 tablespoon currant jelly

    10 black peppercorns, crushed

    1 bay leaf

    ¼ teaspoon dried rosemary, crushed


    Gravy:

    2 teaspoons lemon juice

    3 tablespoons water

    2 tablespoons all-purpose flour

    ⅛ teaspoon dried thyme, crushed









    Directions
    Step 1
    Place bacon in a large skillet; cook and stir over medium-high heat until evenly browned, about 10 minutes. Use a slotted spoon to transfer bacon to a paper towel-lined plate.; set aside.

    Step 2
    Sprinkle rabbit with salt and coat with flour, shaking off excess. Cook rabbit in bacon fat in the skillet over medium heat until browned. Transfer rabbit to a plate and set aside. Drain excess grease, leaving 2 tablespoons fat in the skillet.

    Step 3
    Sauté shallots and garlic in fat in the skillet until tender, about 4 minutes. Add wine, water, and bouillon. Bring to a boil, then stir in jelly, peppercorns, bay leaf, and rosemary.

    Step 4
    Return rabbit and bacon to the skillet. Bring to a boil, then reduce heat to low. Cover and let simmer until rabbit is tender, about 1 1/2 hours.

    Step 5
    Remove bay leaf and discard. Place rabbit on a warm platter; cover to keep warm while preparing gravy.

    Step 6
    Make gravy: Stir lemon juice into cooking liquid in the skillet. Mix together water and flour in a small bowl; stir mixture into the skillet over low heat and simmer until thickened. Stir in thyme.

    Step 7
    Pour gravy over rabbit or serve in a gravy boat on the side.
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  27. Ancalagon

    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    I know I have posted this twice already but I guess I am a sucker for repeating myself.

    As I have to ask my 9yo more times than I would like:

    Q: What is the first rule of holes?

    A: Stop digging.

    Learning to quit when you are behind is a valuable life skill.

    Most people learn it fairly early.

    But then I guess most don’t have Trust Funds to shield them from reality.
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  28. Ancalagon

    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    Wait a second. Maybe most of y’all are smarter than me and realized this years ago but is our boy Billy Madison?

    Has the familial wealth shielded him from reality so he’s a kid for perpetuity (that means a long time)?!?!?

    Is this his idea of a debate?


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  29. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Lincoln didn’t change the constitution. He did violate/subvert it though.
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  30. Ancalagon

    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    1) Bullshit.
    Do the 13th-15th Amendments (amend according to Merriam-Webster means ‘to change or modify (something) for the better’) to the US Constitution happen without Lincoln stomping down the Slavers’ Rebellion?

    2) Show your work Mr Historian.
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