Is it a Human Right to get your balls waxed?

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  1. Awesome Possum

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    Google is a thing. If you don’t know something, go educate yourself instead of getting mad at someone talking about their experience.
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  2. Ten Lubak

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    Kinda funny how Nova got all militant while talking about a militant group of feminists
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    Soma OMG WTF LOL STFU ROTFL!!!

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    Señora Chang has always been militant. :)
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    Awesome Possum Liberal Queen of TNZ

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    How are you supposed to react to a group that exists only to attack and harass people like you while actually having enough influence to actively harm your right to exist in society?
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  5. Ten Lubak

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    That’s not what happened....

    Someone asked what a TERF was and she got all “you’re either with us or against us” militant because people didn’t know about this “very tiny” (her words) subsection of people
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    I know we have discussed TERFs a couple times on here. Search pulls up 70 posts.

    But yeah, I imagine that if you don’t particularly follow trans or feminist issues you probably wouldn’t recognize the term.

    That said, not recognizing the term does kinda say that you don’t particularly follow trans or feminist issues so I can see Nova’s point.
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    ed629 Morally Inept Banned

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    Which is a bullshit response, I really don't give damn what other people do. If they want to identify as male, female, or even fucking mayonnaise and want to marry an avocado. Fine. But if you want support, you may have to educate someone, and that could include explaining terms, what makes someone feel, act, or identify the way the do. But to tell someone they don't appreciate what others feel, and acting condescending will not make them sympathize with them. They'll respond with the same attitude. And there are new acronyms tha come out all the time, and to expect everyone know what they all mean is idiotic. There times where I feel like I have to find out what something new means everytime I come on here.
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    Awesome Possum Liberal Queen of TNZ

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    Is it that hard to use Google?
  9. Ten Lubak

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    Or you could just ask in the middle of a discussion you’re having on a discussion board and not get a pissy militant response :shrug:
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    You have to be aware that the first thing the anti-trans community tries to do is to link everything you say with sexual perversion. This is exactly what this person's opponents have done. It is an obvious attempt to cherry pick things and portray everything as some sort of attempt to look at little naked kids and assault little girls in the bathroom. Of course, no parent should be having their kid go to unsupervised parties with adults they do not know. I don't care if it is this woman or their local preacher. It is bad parenting and opens up a hole for predators to get to kids. But there are reasons for a trans person to talk about these things, and it is clear this person is being attacked by TERFs and conservative transphobes alike.

    When you chose obvious hate blogs and attack sites as your evidence you see what happens. If you are not aware how these people use you to attack trans people you promote these lies, like you did, and you are a tool for attacking trans people with your ignorance. Thanks for propagating bullshit hate attacks because you are ignorant.
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    Sorry, but when you are a tool for spreading lies and rumors that trans people are pedos and molesters based on TERF and conservative transphobic lies, then youi are part of the fucking problem. If there is real evidence this person is trying to molest children, then go for it. When it is all based on some assholes trying to smear trans people then thanks for being a fucking tool. It is great you were a well meaning ignorant tool who didn't do their research and look into the prejudiced lies you spread, but you still helped out.
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  12. Awesome Possum

    Awesome Possum Liberal Queen of TNZ

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    Or you could put in some fucking effort and try to keep up with the conversation instead of stopping it to have something explained to you like a child.
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    This bullshit is like @oldfella1962 posting all the black crimes in his area and pretending he is not trying to smear black people by making them all seem like crazy thugs and criminals despite there being a ton of white people doing crazy bullshit in his little town.

    You fell for TERF and transphobic bullshit and lies. Cut the defensive crap, accept it, and learn from it so the next time you see it you look into it a little bit deeper and don't spread the bullshit.
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    I have yet to meet a single trans person that wasn't a militant, mentally-ill nutjob. :shrug:
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    I will give many people around here a pass for not understanding the reality that transphobic crap comes from a lot of places, and not knowing to look a bit deeper because transphobes are still very capable of spreading lies to the ignorant. This situation looked like there might be some truth to some trans person being creepy. That shit might happen. I would say that being trans does not eliminate a person from being a pedophile, and since child molestation often has connections to abuse and trans people often get abused by family that there might even be some greater potential for a trans person to suffer from the problems associated with abuse.

    But even though I thought the original claims looked damaging I easily did a tiny bit of looking into the attacks, who they were made by, the motivations of the attackers, and what was actually said from the perspective of a trans person. I get that the perspective of a trans person is not one a cis person may understand right off the bat, but fucking ask if there is a reason these things might be discussed in a non perverted conversation before damning people and jumping in the crowd with the pitchforks.

    This person is obviously being smeared by the prejudiced. They have no history of molestation, claims of abuse, or anything that resembles pedophelia in general. They do have a ton of transphobic attackers backing them, so know prejudiced people are prone to lying and twisting things. How often have we seen some innocent black person get the drug using thug treatment because they smoked some pot once or twice. How often do we see women portrayed as rape loving sluts because they went to a party and drank a lot while wearing a skirt? We know what prejudice looks like, so take a moment and see it.
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  16. Ten Lubak

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    Interesting that you’ve decided to go the unreasonable triggered route here

    Back in reality it’s a perfectly normal thing to ask about something you’re unfamiliar with when having a conversation with someone

    Oh well
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    There is. Jonathan/Jessica Yaniv has a documented history of creeping on underage girls. I don't know if the waxing thing is an attention-seeking ploy or just another fetish, but you don't have to question the sincerity of her gender identity to recognize she is not doing the trans community any favors.
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    Could you show me this documented history because I have yet to see a court case, or even a claim from someone who isn't a TERF or transphobe. Just because some transphobe said it does not make it true. Yes, I have read the text and posts they quote, and no they are not proof of anything. I have already gone through that, and I would love to see the case numbers and real complaints.
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    Quincunx anti-anti Staff Member Administrator

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    From the blog of a trans activist and former supporter who has broken with Yaniv:

    https://morganeoger.ca/2019/04/19/p...kes-you-a-predator-regardless-of-who-you-are/
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    For what it's worth, I did answer the TERF question. I'm new enough that it hasn't worn me down yet. I'm sure there will be days where I'll figure "oh fuck it" but that day isn't today. Cut Nova and AP some slack, they deal with this 24/7 from all corners.
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    When you’re talking to someone in person. But we’re on a website and you can open another tab. Yes, I’m triggered and you aren’t being defensive over your own laziness when it comes to basic research.
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    That’s some creepy shit.
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    A couple of paragraphs into your article it explains this is all because of drama.

    That is a long pile of drama llama attacks. I want some proof, not some bullshit from some blog from a person who is reporting on what is the story of her attackers. I have already gone through why there is a purpose to give trans boys a place to swim in what would be described as topless situations, and why it is only considered topless because they were born with a vagina and people born with a penis go around exposing their chests every day when swimming and no one calls it perversion to allow it.

    So either show me some actual complaints about her from some children she has assaulted, taken pictures of, or sexted with. None of what you showed there is proof and it is just perpetuating the abuse by transphobes, and the writer of that blog posts should be ashamed and suffer the consequences of the lies she is spreading because other people in the trans community are going to suffer abuse and attacks based on those lies.
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    That’s my first instinct when it comes to this. Because it looks exactly like what a bigot would use to smear trans people. It’s not impossible that this isn’t a real creep trying to use transgender identity in order as a cover, which will be used to harm trans people. Just like how when some Muslim nut job blows something up all Muslims get blamed, a black guy does anything illegal and all black people get blamed or etc. White men are utterly immune to this even though statistically you’re more likely to be killed or raped by a crazy white guy than anyone else. Just look like Jeffrey Epstein, no one blames all white guys. Funny how that works out.
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    Of course it is creepy. It is the reports of people who are attacking her with stories about what she supposedly said, but they lost it so now it is just their motives and words against hers. If there is some evidence of her sexting, dealing with kiddie porn, or in other ways behaving inappropriately to younger people, then give it to the police.

    But that is not what they are doing. Instead there are these stories from transphobic people about what they want to attack her with. This person isn't even a person who has heard or seen anything first hand. It is all her attackers trying to convince her to make an attack on someone in the community.

    This is all a public shaming attack, because if there was a real issue it should be taken to the police. What evidence do we have from any of the police departments making any action on this? None. This is not an issue of white privilege. The police are not going to stand around while some trans person makes sexual statements to minors. A trans person is going to have as much chance of having a bad police reaction as a black person is to suffer from police overreaction. The police are not giving any special kiddie raping privileges to the trans community, those are reserved for white Christian priests. When we look at this person it seems the government has been trying to brush her complaints off to the side because they do not take her seriously as a victim. I am sure the cops would love to prosecute her just for the reality it would shut her the fuck up if she was sent to jail on sexual misconduct charges.

    This whole thing is becoming more and more disgusting as we go along. A bunch of transphobes making shit up to attack someone is not uncommon. Just because this person is a trans person does not make it any more believable.
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    Awesome Possum Liberal Queen of TNZ

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    I agree, if you suspect there’s a real problem contact the police. If not, you’re probably just trying to spread bullshit to smear a minority group.
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    It really does come down to this. The best way to deal with a sexual predator is to have them removed from society. If you look at sexual predators you find that the ones doing it keep doing it and normally find victims even when everyone knows who they are. Who didn't know Micheal Jackson was an unsafe person to be around? Still, he found victims. Getting them behind bars is the best way to stop them from having access to kids or raping people on the street. Ted Bundy had no problem raping and killing bitches even when he was on the FBIs most wanted list. The only stop to his behavior was when he was in jail and dead.
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    Ok. Go take a Valium or something :lol:
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    What a dated reference.
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    Whatever you prefer then. Anything that will clear your mind and settle you down