Is Joe Biden also a racist piece of shit?

And the alternate statement would have been, "poor kids are just as smart as privileged kids." Which is what he was trying to say, but K thinks using the words black and white in and of itself is racist.

No, not at all.

But that sentence isn't a good substitution for what he said in context. Neither is "Poor kids are just as smart as rich kids." Which is why I think the issue runs deeper than merely misspeaking. I think he gaffed because he rightly saw that he SHOULD be talking about race there, but wasn't prepared to do so.

Good.

I haven't said anything of the kind. I've said that he struggles with racism the same way anyone raised in a racist culture does, including everyone else and including me. But that is not the same thing as saying that that struggle has nothing to do with the substantial issues. It absolutely does.

I'd take either of the first two over Harris, who's nothing but a goddamned cop who wants to be president.

Fuck her.

I'm imagining there were two versions of the sentence which had been considered and practised, one referring to race, the other to affluence. What came out on the day was an unfortunate hybrid of the two.

Yes, and that's the thing: It's not just a gaffe anywhere, it arises from trying to cope with the entanglement of race and class but being unwilling to make that the issue.

Indeed, but that's not quite the same as making the statement that Biden is racist (although I'm quite well prepared to accept he is).

That entanglement is real and therefore a verbal slip based on alternate phrasings could still be an honest mistake which doesn't betray his attitudes per se, merely an unintentional acknowledgement of the interconnectedness of the issues being so close that the two versions could be used as near synonyms.

That being said, I wouldn't dream of giving Trump that much benefit of the doubt and consistency is key to objectivity, so you are probably right. It's just not a slam dunk.

yep - his mouth got ahead of his brain.

Happens to me a lot.

That incident with the pomegranate in the supermarket was completely innocent, no need to call the police.

Again, I'm not saying Biden is a racist POS. I think we pretty much all struggle with racism, given that that's what we learned growing up in a racist culture, and I think this was an instance where we saw him involved in that struggle too.

Fortunately I avoid all these problems by despising all of humanity, regardless of which irrelevant variety they may be. Thus, from my superior moral authority, I may dispense my wisdom to you, the hapless masses, that you might glimpse a better way.

Sorry, my bad, I misinterpreted where you were going with that.

I think election night 2020 is going to be the most enjoyable few hours of my entire life, as I watch the lamestream media and libtard Wordforgers wail in absolute misery as Trump is reelected. Four more years of hysterical bleeding hearts screeching "kids in cages!!!!11!!!11"

The Dems will spend the next 6 months eating each other alive, wallowing in an inescapable quagmire of inane identity politics and other SJW stupidity, attacking each other because 30 years ago someone somewhere didn't use the correct pronoun to address some purple haired freak.

What an amazing life you’ve led

Short answer: Yes, Joe Biden is a racist.

Long answer: Yes, Joe Biden is a racist. A "friendly" racist is still a racist. But Joe isn't even that friendly, if you look at his record.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019...ustice-democratic-primary-2020-explained.html

so - election 2020 might boil down to racist, bigoted guy versus less racist, bigoted guy.

God, I remember that boohoo fit Sokar threw when Obama won and I bet that will be a drop in the bucket to all the crybaby shit I expect from you and Federal Retard if Trump loses.

I'd tell you not to kill yourself in despair but...

...I don't have a punchline for that, but let one of your cuckservative buddies know so we can celebrate your demise.

I'm hoping for racist, bigoted guy versus someone Democrats can get excited behind and turn out for TBH.

John Kerry should've blown out Dubya in theory. In practice, he was thrown out as bait chumc to save Hilary for 2008. Thankfully, Obama learned this lesson quite well. I legit only recall him attacking McCain head on once, but mostly, he got people excited for what he could do for them. In a way, Trump did the same thing, but for nationalists and bullies.

Oh what a wonderful night that was... His tears wept through the internet on onto my screen... They were sweet.


Oh... Yeah that was fun.

Interesting thought, that the rise of populism might have actually been rather earlier than we tend to suppose but we didn't really think in those terms because he was "our guy".

exactly. it's what people do with it that counts.

The same conversation on NPR stressed that avoiding terms like black/white is forcing the viewpoint that racism and inequality no longer exist, a clearly racist viewpoint.

That I will grant you.

There's a lot of other reasons not to elect Biden and in today's climate, we should encourage everyone to choose the best words possible, but not everyone who misspeaks or clarifies what they were trying to get at is a nationalist alt-righty.

That said, I don't have it in me to scream at minorities for not having any liniency about any slips either. Stuff like this is wht many black folks I know don't vote. From their vantage point, it's trading one kind of bigotry for another and most don't feel like there's any point in participating in a democtdemtbat will fuck them over either way.

What I'm saying is look to minorities about how to fix this.

He’s not White Nationalist racist, but he does seem to have certain biases and prejudices if only on a subconscious level that sometimes comes out. We think we all have that to some degree because of how we’re raised and society in general. That’s why it’s important to be aware of them and try to not let it guide you.

not necessarily! If a non-racist holds the viewpoint that racism and inequality no longer exist, then it's no longer a racist viewpoint.

yes, necessarily. That person is then a racist.

so if somebody on the left thinks racism & inequality doesn't exist then they are a racist? Well that sounds like quite a conundrum!

Or what you're having for dinner.

stir-fried broccoli & cauliflower with beef strips, brown rice for a side dish. Tastes good, and good for you!

ponder this: a white guy eating rice, which is often stereotypically associated with Asians of course....the brown rice is the "Uncle Ben" (black dude according to the picture on the package) brand. I've got all the ethnic bases covered with this meal! Wait - plenty of kosher salt too just to add more diversity to my supper!

It’s about being privileged in how you think. We all have some kind of privilege, and the hope for most people is that theirs doesn’t end up hurting everyone.

If you can see the incarceration rate for black men, read the rants of these shooters, watch police kill black men selling cigarettes on the street while calmly arresting and interviewing white men who shoot black men, read any Dinner post, and say that racism doesn’t exist, then you are either blind, or complicit. That is what privilege affords you.

Jesus H Fuck.