Is Joe Biden also a racist piece of shit?

Lanzman · Aug 16, 2019

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That makes no sense. Who are a couple of the iconic Democratic presidents of the 20th century? FDR and JFK. Both of them were from wealthy families. Children of privilege.

Once again you are goalpost shifting. Saying basically "yes, we've all had loved ones die, but it only really matters if we've had a child die".
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What on earth are you talking about?

I'm shifting no goalposts, there weren't any goalposts there to shift.

All modern Presidents have been independently wealthy AFAIK, being "iconic" is meaningless. What we are talking about is @garamet 's suggestion that the broader the set of life experiences the better the decision maker, which is hardly a controversial insight.
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You're the one who brought up AOC being so popular because she's (direct quote from your post) "known a life without privilege or riches"

I brought up FDR & JFK who were two of the most popular (perhaps I shouldn't have said 'iconic') Democratic presidents even though they were definitely "children of privilege".
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AOC is not a president.

Her popularity rides on the fact that she is the exception to the norm, she's rare in the extreme to have become a congresswoman coming from the background she did because the system typically makes it very difficult to succeed unless you are privileged. That's no coincidence, circles of power tend to converge which is why you see the same family names cropping up again and again in the higher echelons of any society and especially in conservative circles, because conserving the status quo is exactly what conservatism is about.

People are so enamoured with her precisely because they see so few people like her in politics, people like themselves who have spent most of their adult lives working at or near minimum wage, someone who they feel really represents them because 99.999% of the time it's a closed shop.
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AOC's popularity rides on her habit of promising Free Shit to idiots who don't understand how economies work.

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There are very few true believers in politics, people who want to help at the ground level usually stay at the ground level for that very reason.
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spot261 · Aug 16, 2019

Lanzman said: ↑

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What on earth are you talking about?

I'm shifting no goalposts, there weren't any goalposts there to shift.

All modern Presidents have been independently wealthy AFAIK, being "iconic" is meaningless. What we are talking about is @garamet 's suggestion that the broader the set of life experiences the better the decision maker, which is hardly a controversial insight.
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You're the one who brought up AOC being so popular because she's (direct quote from your post) "known a life without privilege or riches"

I brought up FDR & JFK who were two of the most popular (perhaps I shouldn't have said 'iconic') Democratic presidents even though they were definitely "children of privilege".
Click to expand...

AOC is not a president.

Her popularity rides on the fact that she is the exception to the norm, she's rare in the extreme to have become a congresswoman coming from the background she did because the system typically makes it very difficult to succeed unless you are privileged. That's no coincidence, circles of power tend to converge which is why you see the same family names cropping up again and again in the higher echelons of any society and especially in conservative circles, because conserving the status quo is exactly what conservatism is about.

People are so enamoured with her precisely because they see so few people like her in politics, people like themselves who have spent most of their adult lives working at or near minimum wage, someone who they feel really represents them because 99.999% of the time it's a closed shop.
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AOC's popularity rides on her habit of promising Free Shit to idiots who don't understand how economies work.
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Show me a politician who isn't guilty of this, but I dispute the idea it's aimed at people who don't understand how economies work. Plenty of economies function very well indeed whilst not following such an overtly free market model.

Minsc&Boo · Aug 16, 2019

ayn rand is spot's mother.

garamet · Aug 16, 2019

Lanzman said: ↑

spot261 said: ↑

Tracker said: ↑

spot261 said: ↑

What on earth are you talking about?

I'm shifting no goalposts, there weren't any goalposts there to shift.

All modern Presidents have been independently wealthy AFAIK, being "iconic" is meaningless. What we are talking about is @garamet 's suggestion that the broader the set of life experiences the better the decision maker, which is hardly a controversial insight.
Click to expand...

You're the one who brought up AOC being so popular because she's (direct quote from your post) "known a life without privilege or riches"

I brought up FDR & JFK who were two of the most popular (perhaps I shouldn't have said 'iconic') Democratic presidents even though they were definitely "children of privilege".
Click to expand...

AOC is not a president.

Her popularity rides on the fact that she is the exception to the norm, she's rare in the extreme to have become a congresswoman coming from the background she did because the system typically makes it very difficult to succeed unless you are privileged. That's no coincidence, circles of power tend to converge which is why you see the same family names cropping up again and again in the higher echelons of any society and especially in conservative circles, because conserving the status quo is exactly what conservatism is about.

People are so enamoured with her precisely because they see so few people like her in politics, people like themselves who have spent most of their adult lives working at or near minimum wage, someone who they feel really represents them because 99.999% of the time it's a closed shop.
Click to expand...

AOC's popularity rides on her habit of promising Free Shit to idiots who don't understand how economies work.

spot261 said: ↑

There are very few true believers in politics, people who want to help at the ground level usually stay at the ground level for that very reason.
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Assertion not supported by evidence.
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