It's Good News Friday! (CLIMATE CHANGE)

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    Okay, WTF is going on?!? :shep:
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    The ice age is ending and La Niña is in full swing. The sun is entering a phase where there are more sun spots, thus effecting weather patterns on Earth. Also, CNN is using a sensational headline to scare people.
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    Your bullshit comments on climate aside, what part of the CNN headline is factually incorrect?

    Show your work.
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    I can't make up my mind as to whether you pushing this bullshit is more harmful to the environment than the methane you'd expel if you were to die and shit your bowels out right now.
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    The CNN headline isn't incorrect, but it is a little sensational considering that the area where the hurricane is headed has lots of desert.

    But grabbing attention is what headlines are supposed to do.

    Screenshot 2023-08-18 at 12-37-36 Hurricane Hilary.png
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    True, but if the storm even gets close to cities like Las Vegas, that could be a big problem. I was there last year when they got something like a quarter inch of rain and it was the apocalypse.

    2-3 inches of rain would be very, very bad.

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    Wonder how deserts handle lots and lots of rain in a short period of time? I think that they're probably bad at it, since you always hear about landslides on hills that don't have any trees on them in heavy rains. I'm reasonably certain that all of that desert isn't uninhabited, and while in terms of total population being impacted, the numbers might not be all that high, since CA does have a large population, a lot of people could wind up having a very bad time. After all, several cities in CA have larger populations than many states in the US (and not just ones like Montana and Wyoming which are mostly cows). How's the rivers going to handle all that extra rain?

    Hurricane and tropical storm direction predictions aren't exactly great, so no matter how certain they say they are that it'll make landfall here or there, until the storm starts getting really close, it shouldn't be surprising if they change direction. And lets say that there's only a few hundred thousand people in the path of the storm, assuming it makes landfall in CA, how many of the buildings in that path are designed to handle a tropical storm? After Katrina wiped out LA, it survived as a tropical storm and made it all the way to KY before it lost enough strength to not be considered a tropical storm anymore. It didn't fuck up nearly as much stuff here as it did in LA, of course, but it did fuck some shit up. How does earthquake reinforcement stack up to preventing storm damage? I don't know. I could see it helping with at least parts of it, but I'm not an engineer.

    I don't think that this is anything to panic about, but certainly something worth keeping an eye on. Hurricanes and tropical storms hitting CA ain't exactly a common event.
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    Everything I said about climate in post #640 is accurate.
    As for the headline, the US had a ten year period where no major hurricanes made landfall. It’s not like hurricanes or tropical storms never come through that area of the pacific, it’s just that they rarely come close to the California coast.
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    Are you trying to replace Dayton?
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    Nothing I said is inaccurate.
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    *Sigh*

    La Nina is not in full swing. We are not, nor have we been in an Ice Age.

    That's without dealing with your ommisions. Where do you get this shit?
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    Isn't it funny? A guy who says we need a massive upheaval in things like politics, and believes that the tales of vast government conspiracies are proof that we need one (or that one is coming), rejects the science-backed evidence for global warming that is absolutely causing a massive upheaval in the world, right now. Almost as if he's someone who prefers fantasy to reality.
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    I hadn’t realized that El Niño taken over in June.
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    It's part of the reason we're seeing such extremes now. Alongside a termination shock from reduction of SO2 emissions.

    But you didn't answer. Where do you get your shit? It takes effort to be this wrong. What media is causing it?
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    I believe in climate change, but I question the alarmism and the climate cult. I also question the consensus. I’m also not going to listen to a bunch of hypocritical politicians and celebrities who want us to change our lives while they still fly around in their private jets. Fuck you, you just want control. Nope.
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    One doesn't "believe" in science, they either understand it, or they don't. If they understand it, then they can still question some of the results, but they also know that they have to have evidence to back up their claims. You don't have any of that.
    Which shows that you don't understand the science. (We'll forget about you claiming that the world was going to start getting colder "any minute now.")

    Which means you don't even "believe" in climate change.

    I always recommend listening to scientists over politicians and celebrities. Remind me again what you think of Fauci?

    And you know who's going to give them control? People like you, who think the government shouldn't regulate businesses or the environment, or help the citizens financially. As shit goes south, what's going to happen is that instead of putting restrictions on things that businesses can do, they're going to slap more and more restrictions on what we can do. There also won't be much to help individual citizens deal with these new restrictions (no mass transit or electric car subsidies to help people who can't afford to replace their car after ICE-powered ones are banned).

    The marketing campaigns have already started, and the fact that scientists figured out in the early '00s, if we launched a crash program, with a budget less than what we spent in just the war in Iraq, we could all be relying on 100% green energy now, isn't talked about in the media. Oh, and having us be 100% green energy now wouldn't involve us developing things like new superconductors to do it. It'd all be done using things that were technologically available back then, just on a far larger scale.

    It's also not something that's impossible for a nation to do. When the Oil Shocks of the 70s hit, instead of hunkering down and waiting for the prices to drop, like the US did, Japan embarked on a bunch of projects to reduce the energy use of the country. Not only did it enable them to produce goods at a lower cost, but it enabled them to do things with their products that competitors couldn't do because they were using older equipment. Sure, that machine from 1918 might be paid for, might be easy to repair, but it can't produce as many parts in the same amount of time as a newer machine, it also can't do a number of the things that the newer machines can't do. Even if all one did (and speaking from experience, American companies don't often do) was to swap out the electric motors in the machine for more modern motors that use less electricity, the savings in energy costs are enough to make it worth doing about every five years or so (that's how fast electric motor technology has been advancing) alone.
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    They handle it just fine.

    Dry washes will be full of water. Massive erosion will occur revealing new formations and turning up ancient artifacts.

    Nutrients will be distributed causing the desert to flourish.

    Desert life instinctively finds high ground and lives on.

    It's where desert is developed it doesn't do so good. People will suffer.
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    The Cascades are being a rain shadow in the wrong direction :weep:
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    You question nothing. You make repeated BS statements and refuse to engage with any real evidence or logically explore your views because you know they are built on a sand foundation of YouTube nonsense and shitty memes.
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