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I think with certain issues, homeopathy is fine. and this is marketed as preventative, not a cure. It's not FDA approved, but I wouldn't call it bullshit.

Homeopathy is giving someone water and telling them it’ll cure their cancer or whatever. It is absolutely bullshit.

No. it's not. You obviously have a negative attitude toward homeopathy, but that doesn't make it bullshit. Just something you don't think works.

So, from what, in your opinion, do you think prescription medicine is derived? You're ignorance of what medicine is, doesn't mean it's bullshit. It means you're ignorant of the subject.

There’s at least 1,800 studies showing it doesn’t work: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smar...ts-conclude-homeopathy-doesnt-work-180954534/

That article is 6 years old and I can assure you that the science hasn’t changed. It’s garbage and kills people.

Scientific research, not water. Homeopathy is literally just water.

Taken from YT comments section:
Joe Rogan drinks water.
CNN: Joe Rogan promotes a fluid commonly used as engine coolant.

Plants. All medicines begin with plants. Not water.

Homeopathy is putting a legit pill into a bottle of sugar pills, shaking the bottle, taking the legit pill out and saying the sugar pills are now medicine.

both of you are going to have to provide links otherwise your opinions are bullshit.

No, they don’t. Many do, but not all. Homeopathy isn’t medicine, it’s quackery, and that has been proven time and time again.

Jenee, speaking as a scientist with over 20 years in the field... quit while your spine is still vaguely spine-shaped.

You're confusing homeopathy with herbal medicine, the latter of which has SOME merit.

Homeopathy is diluting whatever active ingredient might have worked to insane levels and claiming the water "remembers" it. Whether it came from a plant or God's own jizz-tube, it's not that any more. It's water.

I did. From a respectable publication.

That is literally the definition of homeopathy. I think you might be confusing it with herbal medicine.

Homeopathy or homoeopathy is a pseudoscientific system of alternative medicine. It was conceived in 1796 by the German physician Samuel Hahnemann. Its practitioners, called homeopaths, believe that a substance that causes symptoms of a disease in healthy people can cure similar symptoms in sick people; this doctrine is called similia similibus curentur, or "like cures like". Homeopathic preparations are termed remedies and are made using homeopathic dilution. In this process, the selected substance is repeatedly diluted until the final product is chemically indistinguishable from the diluent. Often not even a single molecule of the original substance can be expected to remain in the product. Between each dilution homeopaths may hit and/or shake the product, claiming this makes the diluent remember the original substance after its removal. Practitioners claim that such preparations, upon oral intake, can treat or cure disease.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeopathy?wprov=sfti1

Really? You always take aspirin (or tylenol or ibupropen) when you get a headache? Me, I just take a nap. and guess what. that cures my headache. I don't need a prescription to take care of a minor illness. You are lumping many things into one category without any knowledge of which you are speaking.

Definition of homeopathy


: a system of medical practice that treats a disease especially by the administration of minute doses of a remedy that would in larger amounts produce in healthy persons symptoms similar to those of the disease

Where?

No Jenee, you just don’t seem to understand what homeopathy is, instead lumping all sorts of natural or herbal remedies under the term.

Yes, and by "minute", they meant "less than one drop into a fucking swimming pool". To the point you could put some Insanity Sauce in there and not even get a tingle on your tastebuds.

It's a way of peddling water to folk as a cure. Nothing else.

By minute they mean less than a single molecule of the substance. Supposedly the water has "memory" of the offensive agent.

And by offensive, they looked for poisons that provoked the same effect (i.e. barfing, chills, fevers, dizziness) and then through a series of dilutions (to the point there is none of the original agent) make it "safe" to give to people. Homeopathy literally means "similar disease".

It never killed anyone, but there is no effect besides placebo.

It's popular in France. When I first heard about it I thought herbal medicine. The two are not related.

here's more: https://quackwatch.org/related/homeo/

That has absolutely nothing to do with what I said. People are peddling homeopathy as a cure for things like cancer. It is water. Water cannot cure cancer.

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Actually, it has killed people. In this instance, babies: https://www.scientificamerican.com/...-harmed-by-homeopathic-remedies-families-say/

And who knows how many people have died because they opted for homeopathy over real medicine.

In this case, the manufacturer didn't follow homeopathic standards and an actual amount of poison, belladonna, was detected in the infant teething tablets. It's a different risk.

But not an uncommon one. There's been a number of instances where the manufacturers didn't follow standards and contaminants have gotten in, or they've deliberately adulterated their products with things.

This thread took a bizarre turn.

Let's talk chiropractic.

Sounds good, you want to take the first crack at it?

Here's an easy way to know if something is quackery.
Was it invented in the 19th century?
Probably quackery.