Leftforge Doesn't Understand the Second Amendment...

This is what I love. Every time they step out their front doors, they're expecting to be shot at. I don't think even the average Afghani feels that frightened.

It's not that we don't understand the Second Amendment. It's that we understand the gun crazies who think every situation outside their personal perimeter is some Big Fucking Threat.

Yeah, it's definitely part of my overall strategy.

Gunforge: IT'S SCAAAAARY OUT THERE!!!!!

The rest of us: Dude, take a Xanax. Srsly.

Well, you never know when a special assistant to President Obama is going to grab your Glock and fire off a round unless you unlock your cellphone so she can see if you've been sleeping around on her.

I lock my door every night, so I guess I'm living in constant fear that someone is going to come into my house and kill me.






Or, despite overwhelming odds that WON'T happen, it could be a good habit that costs virtually nothing and could potentially save a lot. Ounce of prevention, pound of cure and all that...

Fraidycats, seriously. Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime. Just stay the hell home where you can Feel Safe. We sane people don't want your hair-triggers in our movie theaters, mmkay?

I lock my doors too, but I don't live under the illusion they will prevent someone intent on entering against my will from doing so. Nor do I live in fear that someone intent on entering will do so.

It's not a fantasy it's just common sense training. Would you as the shot at person be in a better situation by not trying to take the offensive if you had the opportunity? If you have a better way to try to stay alive while eliminating the threat (which would guarantee you stay alive) by all means enlighten me.

I lock my doors...but I don't have to.

I don't lock my door in case Megyn Kelly or Charlize Theron try to break in. If they do, then I'm locking the door.

Yes, that pretty much sums it up. When it's your time, it's your time! From cancer, a car wreck, old age, or shot by a crazy - in a hundred or so years it won't make a bit of difference. But while people do still remember you, do you want your legacy to be the guy who shit his pants begging in vain for mercy? That's not very inspiring.

On the other hand, while you're still alive, do you want them to remember you as the guy who kept yelling "Fear, Fear, FEAR, FEAR!!!!!!!"?

Please explain (without putting your own opinions'spin into things) where I am afraid of anything - except spiders I can't see or going senile or otherwise incapacitated and being a burden on my family. Just because I wear seat belts it doesn't mean I'm afraid of getting in a wreck, just that driving is incredibly dangerous. And if I don't like something or somebody it doesn't mean I'm afraid of it. Do you sometimes carry an umbrella? If so why? Are you afraid of rain, or just don't care for it drenching you? My point is taking precautions and being prepared generally has zero to do with fear and everything to do with common sense.

I carry an umbrella when there is a high probability of rain. We can even somewhat accurately predict such probabilities. As for being shot with malicious intent, there is an extremely low probability. So low, in fact, that the corrective measure increases my risk, which is not something you can say about an umbbrella.

As for having a gun increasing your risk and making you a target? I would have to see some extensive impartial research on that. An exposed/visible gun would generally function as a deterrent. Disarm all the cops in US cities where cops are hated (guarantee cops are hated much more than I am and by more people - Ferguson or Baltimore are examples) and see how cop attacks sky rocket. On the other hand a concealed gun might encourage someone with malicious intent to harm you (why not? What's stopping them?) but indeed there is something stopping them as they may or may not find out soon enough. And a concealed gun is non-threatening and not instigating any trouble. So the only guaranteed "you lose" scenario when and if encountering someone with malicious intent is you have no gun.

Walk down the street with a gun strapped to your hip, and if somebody there is inclined to shoot people, you're the first target. That's just basic common sense. Then the shooter has two guns.

...and also increases the probability of collateral damage.

Uh-oh... they seem to have skipped the background check and waiting period...
http://www.whio.com/news/news/crime-law/video-thieves-steal-77-guns-from-local-gun-stores/nnGw9/

Is this a prelude to because we can't stop all murders, we shouldn't have any laws against murder?

Or a gun ban can't work because the thieves would just steal them from gun stores that wouldn't exist if we outlawed guns?

I guess requiring the store to have secure storage is out of the question? That was a smash and grab.

Treating guns as something other than 'just another tool' would be a start.

And so far this has happened how many times exactly? Is this a very common thing? When I lived in Phoenix it was quite common for people to walk around with guns in plain view and no harm came to them. Maybe they just got lucky and there wasn't a mass killer who said "damn! I would like to shoot up the joint, but there's a guy with a gun! I better kill him right away or he'll mess up my plans." Or maybe the typical mass killer would say "damn! A guy with a gun. I better go somewhere else where nobody has a gun!" Because that's pretty much what they do these days. Was basic mass killer psychology different a few decades back? Anti-gun types are great at coming up with "what if" but blind to "what is." So nice theory, gul, too bad it's the complete opposite of how almost every mass killing has played out in recent memory.

Really? And just how often do gun owners with legally purchased guns and licensed to carry cause collateral damage? Is this a daily thing, like.....I don't know.....street thugs spraying bullets for example? That's what I fucking thought.

Yeah we just had a local Cabelas robbed of some guns a few days ago. It happened in March too. I'm thinking their theft insurance company will be kicking them to the curb soon.

Plus, we're talking about laws that make it much more likely that the bad guy has a gun in the first place.

If you like -- though this is an oversimplification --

If x is the chance of you meeting a violent armed person,
and y is the chance of you being armed and saving you or others because of it,
then your chance of still being hurt by a violent armed person is x(1-y).

Restrictive gun laws increase x and y, decreasing (1-y). But if x starts off extremely low, and y quite low, then the increase of x might not be worth the increase of y.

No, LEGAL gun stores wouldn't exist. What are the odds guns wouldn't be smuggled in? Let's take a look at our "laundry list" of what gets smuggled through our THOUSANDS of miles of borders (sea and land). Yep! No fucking way criminals could figure out a way to bring guns into the US. It just wouldn't be possible. Einstein couldn't figure it out given 100 lifetimes. And let's not forget how effective the war on drugs is, or that brainstorm of an idea Prohibition.
Things currently smuggled:
1) drugs
2) humans
3) exotic animals and plant
4) bootleg/fake merchandise

By your own admission, you're a lousy shot...

Again, I will attempt to explain: much depends on the weapon. I can shoot some weapons well, some poorly. If I purchased a weapon to carry around on a regular basis, it would be a weapon I am very fast and accurate with. That said in the particular situations where I need to carry my son's weapon (which I am very limited in range) everything would be extremely close with zero pedestrian traffic. Guns and their uses and scenarios are not "one size fits all". Thus they manufacture many types of guns in a staggering variety of calibers.