AKPbots are taking to the streets to protest the coup. Lunacy. Stay home. And fer chrissakes don't chant Allah Akbar.
Wouldn't it make more sense to bus them to a country that enforces sharia, such as eastern Syria and big parts of al Anbar?
This looks weirder and weirder by the minute. Hearing whispers of false flag. Would Erdogan do something like that? Why not, he's ruthless and there have been staged attacks before, usually to blame the Kurds afterwards. Always ask, cui bono? If he 'wins' a coup he's planned himself, he can do whatever he wants. Away with the constitution, martial law forever, Scharia law... Too soon for the tinfoil hat. But keep it in mind. Right down his autocratic alley. // EDIT. They have just mentioned the possibility on CNN.
The problem is that a majority of the Turks support Erdogan. He is using two weapons to brainwash the masses: Religion and nationalism. The military will not kill thousands of protestors. Erdogan drones are on the streets now. The reactions of the west and Russia do not help. In Western Europe, Turkish immigrants are protesting FOR Erdogan. They have been brainwashed by his propaganda. It doesn't look good at the moment! They should have killed the guy at the beginning of the revolt. As long as he is able to talk to the media, he can play victim, and his supporters will listen.
They do, but they don't do it on purpose. So does the rest of the world, including Russia. There is a lot of anti-western sentiment in Turkey, openly supporting the coup could be counter-productive. This is why there is nothing to hear from Obama, Merkel and all the others, only harmless calls for peace. It is a lose-lose situation.
Nope. Obama opened his mouth and called for all parties to support the democratically elected government of Turkey. Meanwhile their are reports that the F-16's have rolled in, bombing parliament and shooting down a helicopter that was shooting at people on the ground.
Yeah, it seems that the US has supported the scumbag Erdogan during this pitiful attempt of a coup. They should have kept shut their mouths. Shame! Better the devil you know, at least so it seems. It's called Realpolitik, I guess. The West has failed again. On the other hand, there was not much they could have done except keeping their mouths shut. But they failed at this, too. Erdogan will be stronger than ever after these events and turn Turkey in a islamistic shithole even more. Well, let's see how this turns out. Noch ist Polen nicht verloren.
Okay, I understand the basic concept of a military coup. But from a soldier's view, I can't understand how it could ever work, at least in the US. Let me preach on: Let's say the US government got so insane & out of control & oppressive (I'm sure we can all envision that in our own way) that a faction of our military took matters into their own hands to throw the bums out. Within minutes (possibly seconds) the government would launch their game-changer and shut it down. The government response would be as such: "hey fellas! I hope you have a shitload of money in the bank! Because we just put a complete freeze on your direct deposit paychecks. Now you are indeed a volunteer army. No pay for you! Enjoy your bankruptcy! And definitely enjoy your prison when the dust settles! That's it - that's the only weapon our leaders would need against their rebellious military. The majority of US military are married & most of the married have children - they have mortgages, car payments, etc.etc.etc. That said maybe the military get paid with a whole different system in Turkey but in the US it's direct deposit. Freeze that pay and it's game over.
So.....do we get ready to put the flags at half staff? Turkey are our allies. Wait they already are - do we crank them down from that and have them at quarter staff?
The West was never really picky by choosing allies. The Saudis are our beloved friends too, remember. So why not a fascist asshole like Erdogan? Merkel was kissing his feet during the past months because of the refugee crisis. She humiliated herself. It's pitiful, but "strategic interests" seem to be the most important thing.
Some are saying that this was a Gulenist led coup attempt. Would explain why it didn't have the full military and urban support of other coups.
The waffle makers have been deployed. Hint to stupid person: The tank driver can't see you. One of my friends cut two Korean army trucks in half with his M-1. He sped down a hill and was going to shoot between them on a bridge, but the drivers tried to speed out of the way by pulling out into the middle of the road. Fortunately he only crushed the back ends of their trucks, which folded up like beer cans. Then he sped away and stayed off the radio. After that they made him a loader.
Funny how Obama is a bumbling fool who can't accomplish any of his stated goals… until you need him to be a diabolical mastermind who decides the fate of world leaders with a casual word.
No, he can accomplish his goals, like turning the Middle East away from secularism and towards radical Islam. He supported the Muslim Brotherhood over Mubarack or Sisi. Even after Sisi overthrew the Muslim Brotherhood, Obama was still supporting the Muslim Brotherhood. In Iran Obama gave the back of his hand to pro-democracy reformers because he preferred working with the mullahs. In Libya he ousted Qaddafi in favor of Islamists. In Syria he's trying to overthrow the secular Assad in favor of ISIS and al Nusra.
Some, interestingly, being Erdogan. He apparently managed to discredit Gülen to a great extent in parts of the Turkish population. From the outside, a Gülen connection to the coup might make it seem more attractive rather than less.
Man, what is that crazy David Blaine up to now? That "mashed into jelly by a tank" trick is a classic and only David can do it justice!
Well this couldn't have gone better for Erdogan. Now he's got free reign and that means Turkey pivoting more towards autocracy and Islam. Fantastic. He's already at cleaning the military of secular elements, meaning it won't be able to protect the country from Islamism any more. This stinks. Something is not right there at all. This amateurish coup is just too perfect for Erdogan. Welcome to the islam(ist)ic dictatorship right on Europe's doorstep.
You're crazy. This is a great day for freedom and democracy. Just ask Obama and Kerry. Erdogan was almost overthrown by moderate if not secular Muslims (Islamists in Erdogan's description) trying to restore freedom and democracy. They are a threat to all that is good and holy. Allahu Ackbar! Allah in his wisdom has denied the poisonous treasonous vipers victory, and they will be severely punished, along with their supporters, as Allah wills. Thank God that the US had a President that wouldn't succumb to the temptations to support such evil military generals and their schemes. The Islamic world can count of Obama to be their rock, always there to support them as a reliable and powerful ally.
When I heard the news last night I was so excited. When I woke up this morning I smelled a rat. That said, I'm not necessarily convinced that this will go how Erodgan plans from an international point of view. He may well have just bought himself isolation.
Erdogan and Turkey cannot be isolated. Just look at a map. We will have to continue to play his game no matter what. And... he knows it. He can pretty much do whatever he wants at this point.
In case you weren't paying attention, Kerry supported North Vietnam during the Vietnam War and could have been shot for treason, and now he supports the mullah's in Iran against the evil Zionists. Obama is even more out there, supporting the Muslim Brotherhood and refusing to call what's been going on "Islamic terrorism" while hosting Ramadan and EID celebrations.
