Holy crap. Has Obama reached peak stupidity, delusion, and unawareness? Breitbart story Obama said: I think have to step back [from the Nice attack] and reflect on what we are doing to eliminate this kind of chronic violence. It’s been a difficult several weeks in the United States. But the divide … is between people who recognize the common humanity of all people and are willing to build [international] institutions that promote that common humanity, and those who do not — those who would suggest that somebody is less than them because of their tribe, or their ethnicity, or their faith, or their color. And those impulses [for solidarity] exist in all our countries. And those impulses, when we do not speak out against them and build strong institutions to protect people from those impulses, they can take over, they can be unleashed — so that all of us [international leaders] have responsibilities. And yet people like Erdogan can't seem to do anything that disappoints Obama. He's set the world burning and thinks he can fix it with hugs.
Turkey is a prime example that a functioning democracy is more than a free and fair election every few years.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...light-growing-scandal-amid-asylum-crisis.html http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/01/13/when-underage-refugees-look-anything-but-age-tests-sweden/ It is a massive problem and every adult criminal from Bangladesh to Nigeria knows how to play this fraudulent game.
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/0...the-trouble-our-continent-is-descending-into/ And, of course, how most so called refugees aren't. And how do you define that? Daring to point out that something is very rotten in Sweden is crying wolf? Admitting people have been lied to be politicians and that taxpayers are getting fucked up tge ass whole sale is some how crying wolf? http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/0...the-trouble-our-continent-is-descending-into/
Funny how you are still citing the Daily Mail despite my posting proof yesterday that the Mail massively lies about these issues.
So, still no response about the issues raised and more of you just trying to shoot the messenger, he?
Come on, how desperate can you get? "I know it isn't true, but why aren't we discussing it anyway as if it were?"
Except it is true, you know it is true, and you are just denying reality because you do not like what the truth means to your world view. A huge percentage of the supposedly underage child "refugees" are neither children nor refugees.
http://www.mx.dk/nyheder/danmark/story/10542201?redirect=mobi&nocache=0.6242011333457869 The Danish government found that 72% of people claiming to be unaccompanied minors were actually adults fraudulently posing as minors to avoid deportation. Facts and reality just are not on your side yet you keep denying and spinning because you do not like what the facts are. But Packard says there is nothing to see here and that we shouldn't listen to what the evidence says. 72%!
Well, not surprisingly, your evidence sucks. Statements like "critics suspect is a huge fraud," and innuendo about shaving are clear indicators that the article is not relying on facts to make its point.
And the findings of the Danish government? Let me guess, you will come up with yet another excuse to try to handwave the evidence away simply because you do not like it. This dishonesty and mental gymnastics required to maintain your world view is amazing.
See, this is where all discussion has to cease. You just make false claims, and when people point out how they are false, you interpret that as evidence that they are true. There is no more recourse to sanity available at that point.
It's very similar to the approach used by Congressional or other politically motivated investigations. Just keep throwing shit and hope that something sticks. We are under no obligation to refute the claim every time he makes it. At this point, his track record alone impeaches his claims. I'll still look at his sources now and then, of course, just in case, but I'm not going to waste my time pointing out every single flaw. The fact that the Mail article was so obviously lying proves that there isn't adequate real evidence, regardless of any follow-up posts.
You are so full of crap it is coming out of your ears. You won't even respond about the Danish government finding that 72% of those claiming to be unaccompanied minors were actually adults yet you just keep saying there is no evidence. How did your sense of logic get so broken? Respond about the Danish government finding that 72% of the cases were fraudulent or admit I am right that the majority of these claims are fraudulent.
Your claim was that most of the refugees claiming to be kids are adults, and in fact added that many of them were over 30. This doesn't follow from your source in any way. Count the steps that remove your claim from your source: 1) Your source has no credit. 2) Your source doesn't cite its source. 3) Your source says the test used is inaccurate. 4) Your source says the cases tested came from a small, unusual subset, namely cases in doubt... 5) among another small, unusual subset, namely alleged minors travelling alone. 6) Your source says nothing about all immigrants. 7) Your source says nothing about all immigrants in Denmark. 8) Your source says nothing about all immigrants claiming to be children in Denmark. 9) Your source doesn't even get close to saying anything about anyone being above 30. Finally, note that I am not saying most immigrants claiming to be minors are minors. They might well not be; I don't have a big problem with that, since I want to accept adults as well and disagree with laws that make immigration harder for them. I'm just saying you are heaven-wide removed from even getting close to demonstrating your claim.
What a rich fantasy world you live in, Gul. Anything to avoid admitting you have been wrong all and have just been dishonestly lying to hide that fact, huh? Anyway, for people who are interested in the reality of the situation the following is a good read. https://acidmuncher.wordpress.com/2015/10/21/the-refugee-children-of-sweden/
Shit, this whole thing started when I correctly stated that the majority of those claiming to be unaccompanied minors were adults and not minors. We got the usual two meatheads denying and doing their usual dance routine completely unable to even acknowledge evidence put before them. That is how deep their denial pathology is going. It is pathetic.
You certainly did, though his track record is such at this point, that it's not too hard to predict his behavior. What a useless idiot.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/215046 Wrt Turkey Erdogan is now having his cronies run around claiming the US was secretly behind the coup attempt. This is just retarded and is likely a response to private criticism of Erdogan using the coup as an excuse to purge and imprison everyone not personally loyal to him.
I have done nothing of the sort and you just continue to lie. I will respond to your claims about the Danish findings later when I get off of work.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/18/german-train-axe-attack-many-injured/ So the axe welding jihadist who struck today in Germany is just decided as a "17 year old Afghan refugee" and he is the third such "refugee" to commit a terrorist attack in Germany in recent months. I do wonder if he really was 17, as has already been found by the Danish government, most of the "children refugees" are just adults trying to game the system. It will be interesting to see what else comes out about this supposedly innocent child.
1) You didn't read it because the source cited was the official figures of the Danish Immigration Service. 2) Next, we were talking specifically about unaccompanied minors trying to claim asylum so your claim that it doesn't include all immigrants is stupid. The article gives total official numbers for unaccompanied minors seeking asylum by year. 3) The source says the test used are accurate as long as multiple tests are taken together. This is what the Danish government has done. Please learn to read. 4) The results were ofall 282 unaccompanied minors claims in year 2011. All of tge claims not a subset. Again, please learn to reD. 5) I have already linked to an article about one person who was 31 yet claiming to be 17 though most are in their 20's claiming to be 17. Again, you fail to read any of the evidence yet want to argue about it from a position of ignorance. At least read before so you know what you are talking about.
You skipped number 1 and renumbered 2 as 1. Did you think it wouldn't be noticeable that your answers to 9 points only go up to 5? It shouldn't surprise me that you don't know how to cite a source. Yes, the article claims this is where they got their numbers. But they don't tell you the publication so you could check for yourself. You see, if you had treated your research seriously, this is the point where given that your primary source is unreliable, you should have gone to the original and quoted it rather than this. But you didn't, and not least because they're not going to help you by showing you their actual source. Nope. Nope, it doesn't even do that; see my points 6 and 7 above. Nope, this is what the government admits should be done but isn't , because it usually can't, which is why the article ends on the point that the people should be admitted anyway since the method contradicting their age is unsure. Oh say can't you see... Simply untrue (see 4, 5, 7, and 8 in my points above), and frankly, if all minors among refugees in the world amounted to 282 total, we wouldn't have any problem whatsoever. You mean the blogpost that argued "look at that photo! clearly that guy looks much older, right?!"
