Modern Day Civil War: Whose Side Are You On?

What's about that...those are precisely the ten largest states. Though, just as with total population, I suspect North Carolina is threatening to oust New Jersey from your top ten list as well.

And all those states are teeming with red counties. The share of Illinois GDP that comes from suburban Chicago (particularly the red Aurora-Naperville corridor) is rapidly increasing.

Is that why you're so cranky? I imagine they must chafe.

If California picks a side, we'll lay siege to the blue cities!

In the event of Civil War, I'm going to join the Red Faction in California.

Also, I've said before and it bears repeating:

Even in the bluest of the blue states, Massachusetts, a third of the people voted for Bush. Even in the reddest of the red states, Texas, a third of the people voted for Kerry. The Red/Blue concept makes the divisions seem sharper than they actually are.

Utah was 80/20, no? And DC was 15/85, IIRC.

Not if we're eating tasty fetuses!

I take my space garbage truck to the unaffiliated territories, and hope to ride it out, even though I probably somehow caused the whole thing.

Yep, with the exception of Utah, we are purple!

So do Canada, India and Australia. But you had to be impatient, didn't ya?

To say nothing of counties. They're better indicators of sentiment. Ask West Virginia

I'm not disgruntled, merely jaded.

I like being surrounded by people so precisely wrong about things; keeps me on my toes.

And that part about the pay cut being offset by lower cost of living only applied to your post#8 scenario, that the Blue states should have seceded. At the moment there's no comparison - the only places in the US my particular specialty has anywhere near market value outisde NY are places like Boston or California. So, no thanks.

You and Paladin against me and POTN, with Face refusing to commit as usual? That might be interesting. Wonder where Clyde stands?

I'm sticking with the Gray states.

It actually creates quite a conundrum for me. As much as I'd like to see the Yankees leave, I support abortion rights on the grounds of government staying the fuck out of people's private lives.

Mars?

Actually, neither Massachusetts nor Texas are the bluest or reddest of all states (I don't think Texas is even in the top 5 ). Those would be Rhode Island and Utah (followed closely by Wyoming and Idaho), repsectively.

[Mister Burns Voice]Exxxxcellent![/Mister Burns Voice]

After the flames die down, Britain shall reclaim the colonies!

Not in 2006. The Ohio Republican party is in the midst of a major meltdown. Ohio's always been purple, but that purple has a lot more of a blue tinge than just a couple of years ago.

Did I mention the Red Counties' nukes? :flow2:

Eleven of 18 House seats in (R) hands in 2006, eight of them by a 15% margin or more

Democrats made more headway in Indiana than in Ohio in 2006

Alright, then after the nuclear flames die down, Britain shall reclaim the incinerated remnants of the colonies. And toast marshmallows upon them.

They won't even have to leave Britain to toast them...you thought we'd use them here?

Well, yeah. You guys are completely f**king nuts when it comes to war.

That whole "we had to destroy the village to save the village" stuff? I'm willing to bet Texas - at least - would incinerate itself in nuclear fire to stop the Blue States taking over.

Your loathing of Europe will be your undoing.
I'll make sure of it.

Why, when all they'd have to do is open their gun cabinets? :flow2:

Plus, the red counties could effectively blockade the blue ones with their control of the interstate system

Massive gerrymandering of course makes a difference. The Democrats took the statehouse, AG's office, secretary of state, and U.S. Senate seat, the statehouse by a huge margin, and Democrats for Congress got more votes statewide than did Republicans; you'll notice that Democrats had much larger margins of victory than Republicans. They did that despite the bests efforts of an amazingly corrupt Republican secretary of state, who pulled every dirty trick out of the bag during his tenure.

The Democrats made huge gains in Ohio in 2006, becoming a clear statewide majority, and, unless things swing back the other way and a Republican takes the next gubernatorial election, when the next round of redistricting occurs there will be a huge shift in the state legislature and Congressional representation.

I've come up with countermeasures to everything.

Evil ones.

Eeeeevil ones.

What did you think, that we were a bunch of farmers and unemployed autoworkers? Pfft.

Oakland County is the third richest county in the entire nation.

Yeah, but those high margins largely involve districts using Cleveland and Cincinnati. The next redistricting can only gerrymander into those cities so much...overdo it and you dilute them all. Plus, 2006 was largely Bush dissatisfaction. 2008 is a fresh slate.

By what measure?