Paladin - If you must care so much about something so tediously pointless, consider for a second that Mrs. Obama's statement was just a rhetorical flourish. I doubt she meant people to read as much into it.
10 months? Dude, Presidential Elections and Presidencies are like Christmas. They keep creeping in earlier and earlier each time around. We'll be talking about this kind of stuff every day for the rest of our lives. I hope you like it.
I find it to be quite telling that a Harvard and Princeton educated black woman who has done things in her life that blacks sixty years ago could've never dreamed of doing wasn't proud of her country until Americans started drinking her husband's Kool-Aid.
I disagree that it was mere rhetoric. I think that statement gives insight into how she thinks and what she believes. Does she allow for having pride in her country? Yes, she does, because she says she has it now. Has she ever had pride in her country? Not according to her. What's changed? The possibility that her husband could become President.
Well, pump yourself full of fear and outrage then, and vote for McCain, for all the good that'll do you.
Yes, she's proud now...because things are going her way. I'm so glad change is coming, and the cavalry is here to save us from the mean old conservatives!
I would think that would make her proud of herself more than anything, and rightfully so. Black people contributing to society rather than leeching off of it...isn't that a good thing? :flow2:
That's the same context that pride is used when referring to sports teams. And all they do is play games
It's kind of pathetic that she is only now proud of being an American. She has lead a very nice life and has a very nice lifestyle. Her husband is a US Senator and she is rather successful in her chosen profession, yet she has never been proud of being an American or the opportunity she has had. Obama might be smart to tell her to shut the hell up until the elections are over.
I know it may have been more of a joke than anything, but who knows, maybe that is someone she would need to hear or see. I love Lee Greenwood and can't help feeling patriotic every time I hear "Proud to be an American." Maybe she's just never considered it, or actually thought about it to such a degree, and when she saw that her husband was being lauded and picked by so many people to be President of the United States, her faith in her husband helped her get a nudge in that direction? J.
Disagreement with someone's values isn't fear and I'm not really outraged. I'm just kinda And I think, with the alternatives provided, my vote for McCain is probably a given.
Did she say that she didn't see anything good about the country? No, she didn't. She said for the first time in her adult life she was "really proud" of her country. That could mean lots of things. It certainly doesn't inherently mean that she snothing good about the country.
According to Hillary Clinton (c. 1993), the office of First Lady. And unless Mr. Obama disavows something Mrs. Obama says on his behalf, it's safe to assume he shares the belief.
Can you think of much of anything that either Obama, Mrs. Obama have said in this campaign that have any significance, or substance? Most of what they have said is nothing more than fluff and lacks any hardcore details as to how "hope & change" will be implemented.
McCain needs to get his wife's ass in check and not make this an issue. Let her words speak for themself.
I think you are lying to yourself if you believe that Mrs. Obama wasn't very much aware of what she was saying. I doubt she considered the impact her irresponsible statement would have, but she knows and knew exactly what she was saying. She'll be a great First Lady. I just see her now when she's entertaining. Damn, I'm not proud to be an American today. That Congress overrode my President desire to control 1/8 of the US economy.
You're safe to assume any number of things. Whether you're free from being called on the faultiness of those assumptions is another thing. Ahhh, I love this country.