Netanyahu: Hitler didn't want to kill any Jews, the Holocaust was all the Palestinians fault.

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  1. RickDeckard

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    And here we have the Israeli police taking great measures to protect civilians.

     
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    Ah, but that's completely justified because the Palestinians are worthless animals.

    (And I'm totally not a racist).
     
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    Damn, posted with the wrong account.
     
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    You really are in your own little fantasy world, aren't you? It is a shame you won't even stand by your claim that Jews secretly plot to kill women and children.
     
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    Now, now, it's bad form to keep on digging after such a meek surrender.
     
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    When he is claiming Jews are setting out to butcher women and children, well, such an outrageous lie deserves a bit of hyperbole in order to accent how grotesque his position is, don't you think?
     
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    Why do you continue to conflate the IDF with "Jews"? Do you think that others don't notice that this is something that you are introducing?
    The fact that you do so, thus pretending that Jews in general are responsible for the actions - including the depraved criminality of the IDF - is the most anti-Semitic thing in this thread.

    Because in reality, a large proportion of Jews want nothing to do with said actions.
     
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    Oh, it is not the Jews just the world's only Jewish State which is controlled by Jews who lies about their secret desires to kill women and children? Gee, that distinction makes all the difference and isn't even remotely antisemitic now. :rolleyes:

    His bull shit is such outrageous defamation and you are clearly sympathetic to his anti Jewish lies. You might as well be quoting from the Protocols of Elders of Zion. This is the same sort of horse shit. Jews deliberately seek to kill civilians? :jayzus:
     
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    Dinner: The Israelis try not to kill civilians and only target 'militants', whereas the Palestinians deliberately target civilians in preference to military targets.
    Inútil: Here are figures that show exact opposite. What do you have to say about them?
    Dinner: Neh neh I'm not listening! What I say is true because it is.
    Inútil: The evidence says otherwise.
    Dinner: I don't need any stinking evidence, my position is self-evident.
    Inútil: You are the weakest debater I've ever encountered.
     
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    Well, Jews are extremely violent. Just look at New York. Blacks and Italians are afraid to walk down the streets because Jerry Seinfeld or Larry David might murder them on the spot.
     
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    The assertion that there is no difference is wildly anti-semitic, and it's yours.
     
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    Do you really think that anyone is fooled by this pathetic projection of your racism in a desperate and futile attempt to cover the weakness of your position?
     
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    Isn't it convenient how you ignore how it is Muslim terrorists who always deliberately target civilians and how those terrorists receive wide spread support from Muslim populations? Yet one that score you have nothing but excuses and cannot rush fast enough to try to pretend it is not true.

    I posted a survey of muslims from all countries with large Muslim populations and the average of support for terrorism was around 20% with Palestinians being the highest with over 65% being terrorism supporters yet they are always your darlings. The ones you make excuses for while you constantly attack and slander the Israelis who actually go to get lengths to try to prevent civilian casualities. Especially since the terrorists deliberately use human shields and so many of those civilians are willing to be human shields. It is hard for me to see you and him bend logic like a pretzel in order to justify your hatred for Jews and the Jewish state and not see it as simply antisemitic in nature.

    If it is not motivated by hatred of Jews then why use such glaring double standards?
     
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    Yeah, yeah. You don't hate Jews... You just hate the Jewish home land and have repeatedly advocated it has no right to exist. :rolleyes:

    Nope. I do not buy this attempt to deflect. I will ask you again, why do you always have such a double standard against Isreal? Give me a good reason not to believe your animus and double standards are not motivated by antisemitism.
     
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    This just in. Palestinians directly target women and children to instill terror. They revel in it. In the last Gaza dust-up they fired thousands of unguided shells and rockets at Israeli cities, hoping to kill civilians. They routinely target schools,

    Here's a list of terrorist attacks targeting children, starting with the Bath Michigan school bombing of 1927.

    The next is "shooting attack on synagogue" in Israel in 1956, three of the five dead were children.
    Then, after a church bombing in Birmingham in 1963, it's back to a landmine attack on a school bus, followed by a rocket attack on a school bus, both in Israel.
    Then it's a shooting attack on an Israeli residence, an attack on a school in Ma'alot that killed 20 children, a bombing, a bombing of an ice cream shop that killed six children, and then an attack that wasn't in Israel. Then a poisoning of Israeli food.

    As you scroll down, the terrorist attacks targeting children blossom all over the Middle East, yet never leave the Israeli's alone.

    But if you Google "Israeli school attack" all you'll see is condemnations of those dirty, evil Jews.
     
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    Jesus Christ. You are the liar who claims Jews set out to kill women and children. You are the one who ignores and makes excuses for the fact that Muslim terrorists actually deliberately attack civilians. You are the one who, for some unexplained reason, feels compelled to lie about and make up outrageous claims about Jews. How exactly is anyone supposed to view that and not think antisemitism is what is motivating such clear double standards on your part?

    Take the 2x4 out of your eye, dude. Or at least have the decency to retract your claim that the Jews are hunting down women and children for sport.
     
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    Security guards in the Bronx protecting students from attacks
    by Jews like Larry David, Adam Sandler, Ben Stiller, Jon Stewart,
    Chelsea Handler, and Sarah Silverman, who sit around plotting
    how to murder school kids in New York.

     
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    2 things:

    1) You keep saying that the Israelis go to great lengths to avoid civilian casualties, but only offer your worthless word to back this up. Yet as I have shown the Israeli military kills far more civilians than Hamas and similar groups, both in absolute numbers and percentage terms. You have ignored this fact, claimed your own entirely unsupported position is self-evident, and also made an attempt here to, as I put it earlier, equivocate and try to shift the blame from those dropping the bombs to those being bombed. No one is fooled.

    2) Being in favour of murder is morally wrong but it is much worse to actually murder people. For example, you support shooting refugees; this is morally wrong and shows how broken your moral compass is. However, it would be much worse if you actually went and shot them. In the same way that while some Palestinians may favour murdering Israelis, the Israelis actually murder far, far more Palestinians than the reverse. Do you see the difference?
     
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    OK lying racist. If this isn't just a transparent and frankly woeful piece of projection on your part, please quote one anti-Semitic thing that either Rick or I has written in this thread. Actual quotes only please, not your bullshit interpretations. Off you go.

    (This should be good).
     
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    If rockets are raining down on cities and towns in Israel then they have to stop it even if the Muslim terrorists are firing from civilian areas and using human shields. Yes, that does mean collateral damage will occur but even then they do everything they can to minimize the damage and to only hint the target. Decreasing the size of the bombs used, using guided smart weapons, putting spotters on the ground even though it puts those men in great personal danger.

    If the Muslim terrorists would stop firing from civilian areas and stopped deliberately using human shields, as the Geneva Convention says they must, then civilian deaths would drop substantially but they won't because they are immoral cowards. FACT.

    I can tell you have never spent any time in an actual war zone and are unaware of the hard choices people in the military frequently face. The Geneva Convention requires them to make all good faith efforts to minimize civilian casualties and the Israelis do this but it also allows strikes to proceed if there is an eminent threat (remember those rockets raining down on cities filled with civilians) as long as they do what they can to not be caprecious. Israel does this and, yes, your double standards do make you antisemitic as it is only Jews which you target in such a way.
     
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    By way of inspiration here's a list of racist quotes from you in this thread.

    That's just to the middle of page 3. I got bored after that, but I think people get the idea. You really are a racist little turd.
     
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    I call them savages because every where they go in the world they act like savages. I routinely post evidence of how that culture is savage, backwards, and how the people from that culture find it almost impossible to integrate themselves into any other culture. The routine use of slavery, the repression of women, rape and violence as daily events... All of these things I use to point to their cultural inferiority, backwardness, and unsuitability to be allowed into western societies (not to mention their wide spread support for terrorism) because that is where evidence, history, and personal experience leads me. They are largely unemployable and they tend to be extremely lazy which is why so few of them work and instead sit around thinking up new crimes to commit or how to better cheat the welfare system or how to attack school children or bomb a train.

    You can find that disagreeable or even distasteful. You can say you disagree with the policies I advocate such as not letting them in but I at least point to good reasons to back up my position.

    You, on the other hand, have yet to explain why you post outrageous lies about Jews. I have repeatedly asked you to do so but you have always refused. So what am I supposed to think other than that you dislike Jews for some reason? You certainly have not offered any evidence other than some civilians died in a war especially those around Muslim terrorist rocket firing positions. This is your third chance, dude, explain why you have such a special burning desire to stick it to Israel and the Jews while ignoring Muslim crimes. If not antisemitism then what is your reason?
     
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    So no actual quotes then? Quelle surprise. You really are a joke.

    And yes, I find both your dishonesty and your racism distasteful, which is why I call you a lying racist.
     
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    Like I said, even other Arab states don't want their fellow Arabs and prefer to bring in workers from the West, Southern Asia, or Eastern Asia. They know their fellow Arabs are uneducated, are lazy making them worthless as workers, and that they will spend most of their free time trying to figure out how to make car bombs or planning revolution. Bringing in fellow Arabs is a recipe for nothing to get done, hell, they can't even get their own Arab citizens to get off of their asses and work. They also just sit around all day complaining and demanding more free money.

    So why should we take them when they mostly either won't or can't work, breed like rats, suck up welfare multigenerationally, and generally just commit crimes all day without any desire to better themselves through education (again I point to the sky high drop out rates)?

    So, yeah, I have a strong desire not to see the west burdened by such troublesome and problematic migrants.

    I freely own that and believe it is the only logical position to take given the evidence. Now, fourth time, why do you always single out Jews for your double standards and continually lie saying Jews want to kill civilians? Tell us or we will have to guess what motivates you.
     
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    These debates always go more or less the same way, from the e-IDF side at any rate. First come the hyperbole and exaggeration 'rockets raining down on cities'; these rockets killed a total of seven civilians in the conflict I quoted. Then come the excuses for the vastly disproportionate death counts - when these can no longer be denied - firing from civilian areas and 'human shields' being old favourites, all of which have the aim of shifting the responsibility from those dropping the bombs to those being bombed. Here we also have the special treat of you, a supporter of collective punishment and other war crimes, referring to the Geneva convention, which is rich. Finally, we get some mealy mouthed words about 'eminent' (heh) threats, restraint and just how hard the Israelis try to avoid civilian casualties.

    Let's look at some facts. In operation Protective Edge the Palestinian militants killed 7 Israeli civilians (well actually 6 Israelis and 1 Thai); the Israelis killed between 1700 and 1800, or to put it another way, the Israelis killed around 250x more civilians than the Palestinians in that conflict. The figures from other conflicts between the Israelis and Palestinians tell a similar story. It makes all that nonsense about restraint and threats sound pretty hollow.
     
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    Just because the Israeli government is smart enough to build everyone bomb shelters and have an early warning radar system with alarms to warm people to get to the bomb shelters does not negate the fact that the Muslim terrorists, as usual, we're indeed trying their damnedest to kill civilians by firing rocket after rocket at them. Thank god they had the iron dome.

    So, still, no retraction or explination of you double standards and gross lies about the Jewish people? Ok, since you are either unable or unwilling to explain your actions I am forced to guess what motivates your hatred of Jews. I will go with antisemitism since you are not supplying any valid alternative.

    At least we got that out of the way and you cannot claim you didn't have plenty of opportunities to explain yourself.
     
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    No. What happened here is that I called you a racist, based on various examples of your racism, some of which I quoted. You have now admitted your racism - you could hardly deny it I suppose - and tried to justify it. That discussion interests me not; if I'd wanted to change the minds of racist fuckwits, I would have joined Stormfront's forums.

    You, in an obvious piece of projection aimed at covering up your pitifully weak argument, called me an anti-Semite. I asked you to back up your claim by quoting one thing I have said that is anti-Semitic. I am still waiting; I suspect it will be a long wait.
     
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    Says the Jew hater. I have given you many opportunities to explain yourself or retract you defamatory statements or at least justify them in some way (as I have done with my position that muslim immigration should not be allowed) but each and every time you have refused.

    It is time to call a spade a spade with you.
     
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    Ok, man, how do you explain how the Gulf states, Egypt, North African States, and especially places like Malaysia and Indonesia do not want their coreligionist brethren? I know because I have listened to what they had to say about their fellow Arabs and/or coreligionists. That they are lazy, that they will not work but expect top salaries anyway, that their own Arab populations feel the same, that they are violent and continually plan revolution, terrorism, or crime thinking such is their right as a Muslim. Mind you these were Muslims explaining to me why they don't want fellow Muslims in their countries.

    I have seen it first hand, Asians do all the manual labor, western expatriates make everything work on a day to day basis since the locals have neither the skill nor desire to do any such skilled work, while the locals expect their sheik to give them free money while they sit around and do nothing but complain. They truly think it is their right to not work and yet get paid; unsurprisingly they think their personally doing this is ok but they will be damned if they will let in others to do the same knowing the system would break down. It will break down anyway when they run out of oil.

    Like I said, even other Arabs say do not hire an Arab if you want anything done because they will not work. They will sit around plotting insurrection and telling everyone how much more they are owed by the world. That is why the gulf states mainly (almost exclusively) hire nonArab people to work because they actually want shit to get done without spiking crime even further.

    Did you know that other Arabs all refer to Palestinians as rats? I am sure you think it is because they are racist against themselves but you may consider that there is a reason for their dislike of their fellows.
     
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    Still no quote then to back up your claims, not even one? This is long past pathetic; it's time to put up or shut up.
     
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