NJ Senators On Guns: "Confiscate! Confiscate! Confiscate!"

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  1. Black Dove

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    Counting down the seconds before the usual suspects chime in to tell us that no one really wants to confiscate our guns.
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  2. Sean the Puritan

    Sean the Puritan Endut! Hoch Hech!

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    Actually I think they'll do just that, AND creatively redefine the phrase "no one" to include these three harpies.

    Because see, even though they are lawmakers, they're just "no one". :jayzus:
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  3. RickDeckard

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    Yeah, well fortunately the gun lobby has bought your Congress to the extent that there can't even be a vote on this kind of issue. So I wouldn't worry if I were you. You'll still be able to shoot up schools if you want for the foreseeable future.
  4. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Yep, the do nothing about even safety rules crowd won this fight already. Have to wonder what underlies the continued paranoia.
  5. Lanzman

    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    Really? If you have to "wonder what underlies the continued paranoia" then you must not have read the OP.
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  6. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    No, I read it. I've also followed the fact that none of these efforts have gone anywhere. So again, why the paranoia about a minority fringe?
  7. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    Yes, because everyone on WF can't wait to shoot up a school. Forbin's from New Jersey. Maybe he'll arrange a WF meet-up for a road trip to an old-folks home, daycare center, or hell even a school for the blind.

    BTW (responding to a different poster) responsible gun owners already follow safety rules, which are nothing but common senserules even a child can learn. Irresponsible gun owners can be preached to forever but they will still be unsafe. That's why focusing on "safety" is really tits on a pipewrench useless.

    A lot of gun-grabbers really don't know shit from Shinola about guns other than what other gun-grabbers fabricate or glean from bits and pieces of media. Could be one reason why any gun owners with common sense point and laugh at them.
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  8. RickDeckard

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    They will not be unsafe if their guns are taken from them.

    Of course, we know from your response in the other thread that you consider the excess deaths that results from this to be an acceptable price for "freedom". So fuck you.
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  9. Zombie

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    Because it's not a minority fringe.

    There are substantial numbers of lying Democrat politicians who say one thing in public but when they don't think they are being watched? "Confiscate! Confiscate! Confiscate!"

    They know that they have to work long term to achieve that goal. A step here and a step there. They know that if they were to try and go for a ban they'd get the boot so they are planning on slowly taking things so that over 20-25 years you end up with a ban or a "ban" where you can own a gun but the process is so convoluted and expensive that most just don't bother.

    That's why I put you in the liar column with Demi. I refuse to believe you to be that stupid and naive so therefore you can only be lying when you play this minority fringe card.
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  10. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    Funny that whoever said confiscate can't be identified and it isn't even known if that person is a legislator.

    But hey, why let facts get in the way of a little paranoia.
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  11. Sean the Puritan

    Sean the Puritan Endut! Hoch Hech!

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    Nailed it.

    Yep. "No one". :jayzus:
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  12. John Castle

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    The continued scheming. Tends to work that way.
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    So you do support gun grabbing. Thought so.
  14. John Castle

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    The fact that these efforts persist. Same reason you don't have your alarm system removed after the first time somebody fails to burglarize your house.

    "Well, good thing THAT'S over with!" :facepalm:
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    Rick is a wanna-be dictator. Of course he supports gun grabbing. Can't keep you fucking proles in line when you're armed......
  16. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    Yep. Paranoia.

    Which legislator was talking about confiscating guns?

    Oh, the story can't tell you. Because it can identify three people who are legislators, but not the person that actually said 'confiscate.'

    But a story that says 'no identifiable people are talking about taking away your guns' just doesn't have the same panache, right?
  17. John Castle

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    Yes, they will. People who are stupid and irresponsible don't become intelligent and responsible when you steal their shit.

    1. People die from self-inflicted stupidity by the thousands every day.
    2. Stealing their shit won't stop or even slow that down.
    3. My freedom is more important than your comfort.

    So fuck you.
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  18. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    Let's be honest here. We aren't talking about comfort.

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  19. John Castle

    John Castle Banned Writer

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    The hell we're not. Not if we take Leftforge at your word, we're not. If we take you at your word, you're uncomfortable that private citizens have firearms. Well, tough shit. Your comfort doesn't trump my freedom.

    As an aside, you can always tell when a statist is about to lie when they preface their next words with, "Let's be honest."

    If you were ever honest, you wouldn't feel the need.

    So, I reiterate:

    Fuck you.
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  20. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    I think this is aimed at me. When I preach safety regulations, the idea is that we don't do enough about ignorant gun owners. People here at Wordforge mostly seem to be on top of this stuff, but there are people like Nancy Lanza who don't know shit and therefore make mistakes which lead to tragedy. I agree with what some have said regarding gun laws not stopping an intentional criminal. And I also don't want to make it impossible for an honest citizen to exercise his rights. But somebody should have told Nancy Lanza to keep her guns locked away from her son. A simple course designed to educate, inform, and if necessary frighten somebody in to understanding just what they are buying will reduce accidental death.
  21. Diacanu

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    I don't recall ever hearing that one.

    I've heard "Obama isn't out to take your guns".

    Never heard the "no one", one.

    Anyone who ever did could be proven wrong with Rosie O' Donnell.
    So "no one", should mean "no one who can make any difference".
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  22. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    No, we are tired of the massacres. That isn't about comfort - that's about people actually dying, and how awful that is that in a society as advanced as ours that your kids can still be hunted down like animals and shot by madmen.

    You are completely full of shit.

    But then, we all know you are mentally ill yourself.

    But the Ghost Hunter approves, so you have that. LOL.
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  23. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Shhh. Let them scramble around being scared of the wrong things.
  24. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    Nancy Lanza may HAVE had her guns lacked safely away, I don't think it's been revealed one way or another. But she was stupid enough to leave her crazy-ass kid alone for a weekend with plenty of time to figure out how to get to them.
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  26. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    The difference :

    Most of the Muslim are actually horrified and actively trying to help stop further attacks. Indeed, the vast majority of fundamentalist Muslim attacks are stopped by other Muslims turning them in.

    If gun owners were as proactive about making sure the few nuts making them look bad were dealt with as often as possible BEFORE they went on their rampage, this would be a moot point.

    Instead they obstruct people trying to make the country a better place at every possible turn.

    Look at the cheers that go up here when things like making sure there are background checks done on everyone who buys a gun are stopped.

    Because being able to take the bad actors out of the system SURE as fuck would reduce the amount of gun violence.

    But no, can't have that.

    Which is why the rare gun fundamentalist with a conscience is sad when people talk about the dead kids.

    Because he knows he helped kill those kids.
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  27. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    TRUTH:

    NRA faceman- lets make sure that the gun laws we have are followed.
    NRA members say, FUCK YEAH. Here's our money!
    NRA lobbyists ensure that gun laws are completely fubared and ineffective so of course their true sponsors can sell more guns.
    Another massacre happens.
    NRA members, We did our part! We can't help it that the government can't do anything right!
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    "True sponsors"? :conspiracy:

    :evidence:
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  29. John Castle

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    ...is zero.
  30. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    And there's no one here who doesn't think all those afflicted with GOD* syndrome should have access to all the mental health care you need. In fact, the ACA will make it that much more affordable for you. Win-win.

    *Gunz or Die