Progressive messaging in media.

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  1. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    I typed in Rachel Zegler, and hit the "news" button, and couldn't find anything about her being an insufferable brat. :shrug:

    Funny how I don't have rage boners for people when I don't listen to Youtube mongoloids going "insuuuuferabblle braaaaattt!!! :shakefist: Ohhh myyy fuuuuuckiiiing gaaaawwwwwd!!! :rant:" all goddamned day.

    "Youtube man is angry so now I'm angry!!!!! :ua:".

    You're such a fucking mark.
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  2. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Best I could find was Zeigler saying she was scared of the original.
    When he was a single-digit year old kid!
    I got spooked at 4 by a live-appearance Ronald McDonald.

    (UA's youtubers)
    "Bozohobe piiiieeece oooof shiiiiiitt!!!! Ohhhhh myyyy fuuuuckiiiing gaaawwwdd!!!!! :rant:".

    Hahah! No, I'm white and have a cock.
    They'd have to go after my actual politics.
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  3. 14thDoctor

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    Considering how much CGI and post-production work Disney puts into their "live action" remakes, early footage could be extremely misleading. In July of last year there was a photo floating around of the "seven politically correct companions," then in October they released a promotional pic of Zegler surrounded by seven dwarves that more closely resembled the dwarves from the 1940s film.

    Why get so upset when you haven't seen the finished product? :shrug:
    Jesus Christ :jayzus:
    All the dwarves or politically correct companions or whatever are good, aren't they? In that first pic we saw three of them looked like white males. And last time I checked, the villain in Snow White is a woman. So what the fuck are you babbling about?
    Everything is political. Everything is influenced by politics. You just pretend it's not political when the results don't bother you. When the producers at the BBC said "the thirteenth Doctor will be a woman, we're not even considering male actors," that's political. When the producers at the BBC said "the third/fourth/fifth/sixth/seventh/eighth/ninth/tenth/eleventh/twelfth/fourteenth/fifteenth Doctor will be a man, we're not even considering female actors," that's political too. But you pretend it's not.
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  4. MikeH92467

    MikeH92467 RadioNinja

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    So you think that Disney is so far gone that they'll keep up with what you are so outraged about if they feel like they're losing money on it? :corn:
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  5. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Wait....no second? Are are you saying Troughton was intersex?
    :chris:
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    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    What a lazy way to search for something. Of course you’re not going to find anything that way.
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  7. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Yeah, I need the Tor browser, and a VPN, and rubber gloves, and a gas mask to find the REAL shit.
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  8. 14thDoctor

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    Second Doc was technically a "rejuvenation" at the time, he was supposed to be the same person as Hartnell just with his youth and vitality restored. It wasn't until Pertwee that we got the concept that the next Doctor would be a whole different person. :async:
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    shootER Insubordinate...and churlish Administrator

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  10. Uncle Albert

    Uncle Albert Part beard. Part machine.

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    "Outrage" overstates it, I think. But I understand there are soft, sheltered people for whom words on the internet are their whole world. ( :diacanu: )

    And no, I think Disney shareholders will eventually reel in that leash and do away with this DEI horse shit.
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  11. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Oh, like Hell.
    We could turn the Sahara desert into cropland with your tears.
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  12. Uncle Albert

    Uncle Albert Part beard. Part machine.

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    From your delicate point of view, I'm sure it seems that way.
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  13. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Okay, Fox News.
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  14. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    I tyhink at this point UA has completely admitted the only thing that ruins a movie is the presence of POC and GLBT people. Even if he has not seen it at all, POC and GLBT presence ruins movies for him.

    This is flat out admitting to racism and prejudice against GLBT people. There is nothing about quality, acting ability, or anything other than the presence of any non-white people.

    There is not even an argument anymore, UA is just crying because non-white cishet people are in movies and all UA wants to permit is white people or else he cries.

    Oh, and @Jenee loves him to death and sucks the stank off his dick for being the racist prejudiced white cishet man of his dreams. She is edith bunker without the fucking charm and decency.
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  15. MikeH92467

    MikeH92467 RadioNinja

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    So what the fuck is the problem? :waiting:
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    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    I think it is a problem understanding the world is not albert island, and disney shareholders seem to like money and diversity makes money. You actually have to buy shares in disney, or at least be a customer, and that is not something a shitty welder can afford to do.
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  17. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Your claim seemed to be that to miss it would only occur if someone "couldn't be bothered to pay the fuck attention" so it seems like it should be more easy to find and recorded than needing to track down and transcribe old videos.

    However if that is the case I'm sure one of us can find the actual quotes, do you remember what actor it was from Rings who said the things and we can do the digging for you?
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  18. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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  19. Uncle Albert

    Uncle Albert Part beard. Part machine.

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    The "problem" is a minor source of entertainment annoyance, expressed in words on the internet.
    :dayton:
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  20. MikeH92467

    MikeH92467 RadioNinja

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    Do you realize how stupid this makes you look? :chris:
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    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    As I said, stupid and pig shit fucking ignorant. Not just of fairy tales but how Disney treats their IP.

    See, I have children. I watch these movies and shows and don’t just get my info from incel YouTubers.

    So I know that there is an entire franchise built on a reimagining of the Disney universe putting the children of ‘classic’ Disney heroes and villains in a boarding school.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descendants_(franchise)?wprov=sfti1#

    They have been changing and reimagining their characters for fucking forever.

    I ran a search and I don’t see a single post about you complaining about Descendants. But maybe you had some Very Real Very Serious issues with this Disney reimagining a decade ago and I’m just not seeing it.
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  22. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    The actual truth of why Disney is moving away from the classic princess in distress trope? Because it's been demonstrated that lots of little girls love seeing strong female characters on screen.

    Tangled did well flipping things a bit, then Frozen exploded because (along with stupidly catchy songs) it gave the kids glamorous princesses who could also kick ass.

    I think the live action remake strategy is flawed in a lot of ways, but that's the lightning they are trying to recatch.
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  23. MikeH92467

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    They're trying to make more money: something of which I would think Aunt Alice would approve. There's no guarantee that it work and Disney might lose money because the Free Market decides it isn't entertaining enough. Something else I would think AA would approve of. :chris:
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  24. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Black Panther making 2 billion and Captain Marvel making 1 billion should have made the "go woke, go broke" crowd go "oh, I guess it doesn't. Well, that's the end of us. Goodbye, everyone *channel closes*".
    They didn't.
    It's a grift.
    They just got a fresh kick in the dick from Barbie.
    Nothing was learned.
    "Objective reality" my ass.
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  25. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    Again, @Uncle Albert island thinks it is the center of the universe and everyone has to cater to his racism and prejudice. He thinks Disney is going to go broke catering to anyone else but the people on his island. He is angry that everyone does not want to be like him and his white cishet ass anymore. People like seeing themselves represented and Disney is one of the last holdouts ever, and this angers him.

    He thinks Disney is going to go broke for representing anyone else, and the reality is Disney started off racist as fucking Nazis, and has lost money over time because other studios have found that POC, women, and GLBT people don't only make monmey from those communities, but even white cishet people buy the new content because damsels and white cishet princes have been beaten to death. Movies with Diverse casts make more money, and UA really thinks that someday a religious white boycott of the 10 people who would tell their kids no to a disney movie is going to make disney go broke.

    There are no theaters to lose money on UA island because no one makes money on an island of one.
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    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    Disney has finally realized they should make gay week at their parks official. No one is ever going to boycott disney theme parks because of gayus getting an official days, and worse yet disney loses out on religious days. The religious whypipo are the fucking worst cvriminals and destructive vandals to their park. They terrorize the staff and actually drive customers away.

    Disney has been dragged from whypipo supremacy kicking and screaming that if they every go the slightest bit woke they will go broke, and every time they have lost money because the poor trump cult 45 people do not buy expensive merchandise from Disney anyway because they gave all the shit up to the church and republican politicians. They still sold off one of the biggest woke hits of last year (nimona). They got their princess ass kicked by Barbie last year. Without pricesses Disney is nothing. The failed Barbie Boycott shows UA and his whypipo racist buddies have nothing. There is no threat but losing money by catering to that crowd who does not see Disney movies anyway.

    Then he makes some threat that someday they will go broke and be forced by their shareholders to go back to Nazi programming. All the while he admits to him the only worthwhile programming is Nazi programming because he is racist. He has no other argument aside from racism, sexism, and homophobia are good because of reasons that are always fantasy world lies about some future revenge for offending his snowflake sensibilities.

    Even on planet earth, not UA Island, WASP cishet sexist males are a fucking minority. They are a huge minority, and even tyhey are sick and tired of seeing the same old bullshit. This is why Disney has been dragged into inclusion because other comopanies weere eating their lunch and thery were going broke by not going woke.
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  27. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    easiest thing would be for you or fuckknuckle to link us to actual evidence, but neither of you really has a history of that, do ya?
    "Disney's new It girl acting badly" shouldn't be too high of a bar to at least dig up an Entertainment Tonight clip or something.
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    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    You would think if there was any actual money to be made for catering to FF and @Uncle Albert Island and their sammich and welding fortunes, someone would have invested or gone to see the Ben Shapiro and ho-bag carrero western thingy. Why wait for Disney when you could replace them and make a fortune investing in people who recognize the need for right wing productions?

    Why are people like Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro not the new Disney or Fox empire when clearly UA and the boy have all this evidence that no one wants inclusion or woke, and every investor out there will be making money off the right wing?
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  29. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    I'm about 80% convinced that's his actual goal.

    Presuming that's the case, ya gotta stop and wonder how he's found validation from it for so long.

    Then you put some deeper thought into that and try to figure out what got him thinking that negative attention was not only validating, but empowering...

    Let's just say I work with a lot of guys that act similarly.

    It almost makes you feel bad for him.
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  30. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    there's the irony... neither of them are remotely the target demographic.

    I'm fair certain Ben Shapiro is still confuzzled by the notion that "girls like stuff too".
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