Propose Solutions to Avert Spree Killings Here

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  1. Rimjob Bob

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    What's going to happen in three centuries when we all have replicators!? :soma:
     
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    We'll have them a lot sooner than that. If it takes 100 years to develop them, I'll be surprised.
     
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    Even if an "evil black rifle" was used in this incident, that doesn't change the fact that Columbine wasn't prevented by the AWB that was in place at the time.
     
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    OK. While walking my dog I had more time to think on this. Somehow I was thinking it was "school shootings", not "spree killings". To avert spree killings, get rid of "gun free" zones. Period. End of story. As far as preventing them at schools, here's my plan:

    1) Having a gun and being proficient in its use is part of the job description to teach. Now before everyone wrings their hands and wails that teachers can't be expected to handle guns let me say:
    a) My high school civics teacher was a Korean War vet.
    b) Probably 75% of the teachers in my high school hunted deer every November
    c) There is a major initiative, "Troops to Teachers" to get veterans to become teachers. I didn't become a teacher because the job market for teachers was terrible and it looked like relocating was a foregone conclusion. If I wanted to move I could've just went to Virginia to be a defense contractor.
    So the idea that teachers are incapable of handling guns doesn't fly. Stick a gun in a lockbox or desk drawer and have annual training/certification.

    2) Install "Shooter Alarms". You know fire alarms? Every school has them. Little red handles you pull if there's a fire. Sets off an alarm. A couple times a year there's a fire drill to ensure people know what to do if they hear the fire alarm. Put in a second alarm for if someone sees a gunman in the school. Make it blue and have a different alarm--maybe a recorded message instead of an alarm so people don't confuse it with the fire alarm. Wiring this up wouldn't be terribly expensive. A couple hundred feet of wire, some "panduit" to make it pretty, the pull things, and tying it into an alarm and the PA system. Ideally have an automated 9-1-1 call too.

    3) Do "shooter drills". If you're my age, you remember the Cold War. You remember "fallout shelter" signs. Like fire drills, you rehearsed what to do if the Soviet Union started a nuclear war. Unlike nuclear war drills, a shooter drill would actually be useful. If the alarm goes off that there's a shooter in a school, teachers would lock the door to the classroom and move their students to a location away from the door (and ideally away from windows with actual protection from bullets). The teacher would unlock his/her gun , take up a covering position on the door and wait for the "all clear."

    4) Have 1-2 appointed security people. In my high school, to get in the main entrance you had to walk past the school office--a glass "fishbowl" that let the administrative staff keep an eye on who was coming and going. In those days there were other unsecured entrances, but you could easily lock those and force people to enter through a main entrance. Then you have two people in the school office that have advanced security training. A full time security guard would be great, but having it as an additional duty for the secretary or the principal or something would work too. Then you have an armory in the office that has a couple guns. I'd favor an MP5s and sidearms, but M4s or just pistols or one of each or whatever could work too. There would also be two helmets and two bulletproof vests. See, you've going to do a zone defense with a roving offense. To limit friendly fire, your less trained, less well armed teachers stick in their rooms. Meanwhile your security team works the hallways, looking to engage the shooter. They wear distinctive clothing that not only protects them, but identifies them. So if you see someone in the hall that has a gun but isn't wearing a blue helmet and vest, you know they are a Bad Guy.

    So there you go. A relatively simple, affordable, and very effective method of not preventing another school shooter. You can't prevent that. But it certainly prevents an incident where you have dozens of victims over an extended period. At worst you get one or two dead--with at least one an adult staff member--and pretty quickly psychos think about finding a better place to go to make a statement before offing themselves.
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    A rifle. Not a hand gun. Yet Adam Lanza did not have a rifle on him, but four pistols.


    Oh yeah, this doesn't smell fishy at all!!!


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