Reactionary Radical Eliminationists vs. Trans

Because you abused her until she took her own life.

Dirty little secret is - being an "ideology" is NOT A BAD THING.

Libertarianism is an ideology
So is conservatism.
So is any given religion one might want to participate in.
The Civil Rights movement is an ideology.
"All men are created equal" is an ideology.
"Don't Tread on Me" is an ideology.

It's a useless word to use in the context of this issue except as a buzzword to manipulate utter fucking morons into thinking they sound clever.

Yes, there's a "transgender ideology." It may be summarized thusly:
1. Trans people exist. Yes, including minors. Because it's innate, not acquired.
2. We're as entitled to equality before the law and protection from discrimination as anyone else.
3. In the absence of that condition, we're compelled to speak up and speak out in our own interest demanding those equal rights.
4. What you "believe" insofar as it obstructs that goal, is irrelevant. People believe in all kinds of stupid shit, but they don't get to fuck over other people as a result of it.

If I had a case that shitty I'd rest it too. And be ashamed to continue to practice law.

I'll bite: Does the guy who thinks that a government that will take everyone's guns if they get the chance really believe that a government intent on erasing the gains LGBTQ+ folks have made in recent years wouldn't resort to mass-killing? Especially after the party that managed to get SCOTUS to turn abortion into a "State's Rights" issue has now said that not only do they want a nationwide ban on abortion, but also on birth control is also the one leading the charge against LGBTQ+ people.

You think they're going to be happy with the slow rate of suicide, when they can use industrial methods pioneered nearly 100 years ago that provides a "solution" to the issue to the tune of tens of thousands of people murdered a day?

You're wrong. Furthermore, you're also a poopie head.

That's the only response I'm giving to UA posts from now on. I'm not even going to bother typing it, I'm just going to copy and paste it from the last time I responded. No effort beyond that is necessary or warranted.

No, it won't result in mass murder. Come the fuck off of it.

Suicide is a personal choice, and with choice comes accountability.

"Cuz I say so! *Foot stomp* Hymeh!"

Feelings have no bearing on objective reality. Very true, and a very unwelcome fact in a thread like this.

*Irony meter flames out*

You're wrong. Furthermore, you're also a poopie head.

That's nice.

Fun fact: If the government is targeting a tiny minority of people and preventing grown adults from living their lives as they see fit, and your response is "if they kill themselves that's on them," you're a piece of shit libertarian and a piece of shit person.

fine... Democidal. Although the two are interchangable.

Try again. I am on record stating that grown adults should do as they please on their own time and their own dime. I just have no patience for self-entitled people trying to frame any denial of special treatment as "genocide" or portraying "give me what I want or I'll kill myself" as anything but childish emotional blackmail.

Fun fact: that's exactly what the bigots called gay marriage.
I dunno, maybe try not to lift your verbiage off Nazi bumper stickers from the 80's.
Kooky idea, I know.
What am I thinking?

What "special treatment" are you referring to?

As I've said before, show me where you've raged similarly against neurosurgery prescribed for that exact same reason and I'll acknowledge your position as consistent and not just petty transphobia.

You can get pec and butt implants, probably even a dick extension. No-one bats an eyelid.

They can't get tits.

Which of you is "special"?

Everything from undermining free speech and property owner rights, to demanding tax funding for elective medical procedures. Adults can do as they please, but you WILL leave everyone else out of it.

And do not fucking come at me with these shameless, FALSE comparisons to accident victims.

Neurosurgery for what, now? Tumors and blood clots? Tell me you're not also floating a comparison with cancer patients.

The one demanding someone else pay for it, then expecting everyone else to acknowledge the results on demand. I could get a rotor bolted to my skull if I want, but I'll have to buy it myself, and I can't make everyone call me Airwolf afterwards. Special treatment.

holy fuck, what a bunch of bullshit.

undermining free speech and property rights? "elective" procedures?

and you're kinda cherry picking when "tax payer dime" is referring to UHC in general. (of course, that those systems are also universally cheaper and better than the parasitic privatized one has been shown time and again, yet you're still whining...)

you really have no leg to stand on and accuse others of false comparisons (especially when most folks understand and accept them).

deal with it cupcake. the world doesn't run on your time.

Ever notice how "libertarians" who bawl about imaginary authoritarianism under every rock love to sound like bossy drill sergeant dads who are about to hit you with the belt?

I do not know what he is referring to as the taxpayer dime here in the US. The US uses private healthcare, and even that does not cover this all the time. elective cosmetic procedures are not covered by a lot of healthcare. It would be great if Albert the liar could say what programs he is actually talking about because the only people claiming this is the liar party known as republicans. Tell us the program so we can look up the benefits, and not the claims of fucker carlson. If a US government program pays for SRS it will be listed on a government site as benefits.

No proof is coming because there is no proof of a lie. They have to lie because there is noting wrong with someone choosing the trans path. UA is an angry detestable little republican/libertarian. He has no reason to hate all these people, so he lies to himself and works himself up no matter how crazy these lies. He wants a fascist government where others will act to persecute GLBT people and brown people because he hates them for being better human beings than his nasty ass.

GLBT people are not looking or asking for his permission to do as they will. He wants to try and force them to because that makes him feel powerful.

Not every thread even a trans thread has to be about Tererun.

Citation needed

Citation needed

You said "special rights," yet this is a right cis people have as well. Or should trans people not be allowed taxpayer funded knee surgery either?

Non sequitur.

What's the difference? Isn't it all about FEELINGS? Serious question. What's the difference in your mind? A lot of trans people would argue they're getting surgery to correct a birth defect. Would you take all surgeries to correct birth defects off the table?

For depression and other conditions that can't be properly treated with therapy and medication.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22865464/

You better be careful with those matches or all your strawmen will catch fire.

Just for my own curiosity, did I abuse @Jenee until she killed herself, or did UA abuse me until I took my own life? I am assuming the first, but that was ill defined over all.

As for being called the reason someone killed themselves despite being thousands of miles away, never meeting the person, and the rest of society beating the fuck out of my victim it would not be the first time I wielded such overwhelming power over my opponents. You people better beware of my spooky powers of suicide manipulation as I have victims now.

"No, it won't result in mass murder. Come the fuck off of it."

Your average German, musing over the odd stack of books on fire, 1933.

He's all in pearl-clutching mode about youth transition, which doesn't involve bottom surgery nor ANY "taxpayer money" for the few that happen.

On the other end of the spectrum, the only "taxpayer funded" surgery would be paid by Medicare - which is not driven by general tax dollars but is part of the account one pays for the privilege of accessing over the course of one's working life - just like Social Security. So that, TOO, isn't "someone else's money"

In between, basically every such surgery is paid out-of-pocket or by insurance that the subject has been working and paying for.

so his whole "don't ask me to pay for your treatment" riff is just...comical. Simply a way to insist on being a contrarian while insisting he's actually a libertarian.

And we all know that if he falls at work and breaks his back and is disabled - thus goes on Medicare - and is in constant pain but not at risk of losing his life...

When the surgeon says "we can fix this and relieve a lot of your pain," he will then have to choose the ELECTIVE option of getting surgery that, by his rhetoric, is "paid for by other people's tax dollars" or he can stand on his beliefs and do the honorable thing and choose not to have it if he can't pay out of pocket.

Hands up everyone who thinks he'll choose the latter.
Anyone?
Bueller?

back to back in my timeline:




They can afford to be transparently manipulative because the marks are so profoundly blind to the obvious reality that they are being played.

If an article about a new state law has to be prefaced with a suicide number because of the effects of a law on a particular population, you've abjectly failed as a government.