I'm not opposed, necessarily but a reasonable argument could be made that our whole legal system presumes a binary format and the complexity of recognizing a potentially unlimited number of parties makes the legal ramifications prohibitive.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/26/wisconsin-indiana-gay-marriage/14607195/ The 7th Circuit Court of Appeals heard cases from Wisconsin and Indiana today. Analyses suggest a unanimous ruling against the marriage bans from the 3 judge panel, which means a decision would likely be out sooner than in other cases at the appeals level. Judge Richard Posner, a Reagan appointee, did not seem receptive to the state's arguments. Audio from the both cases is available online. (Indiana) (Wisconsin)
http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-louisiana-marriage-ban-20140903-story.html For the first time since section 3 of DOMA was struck down, a federal district judge (in Louisiana) upheld a ban on same-sex marriage. http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/court-rules-gay-marriage-bans-states-25250547 In a remarkably speedy decision, the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals released a unanimous decision in the Indiana and Wisconsin cases less than 2 weeks after oral arguments finding that the bans in those states are unconstitutional. The mandate has not yet been issued and will likely be stayed pending appeal to the SCOTUS. 5 cases now have rulings at the appeals level striking down bans on same-sex marriage in 3 separate appeals circuits.
Given Louisiana's dependence on tourism, the hoteliers and restauranteurs need to start kicking ass...
doesn't mean the 5th will uphold though. It's fascinating though. If the do, then it's a hot ticket to SCOTUS, but if they don't, then there goes the Traditionalists' last best hope of an Appeals court win.
http://www.scotusblog.com/2014/09/same-sex-marriage-cases-set-for-early-look/#more-217611 The Supreme Court will consider the 7 pending petitions at their first conference of the session on September 29. At that time, the court could decide to hear any of the cases, dismiss the appeals, or hold the petitions to be considered at a future conference.
It's a shame posters like Bock and Bulldog aren't active anymore, very curious how the religious conservatives go about explaining this to their children. Edit: Suppose we have @Dayton3 but I remember him saying he'd disown his daughter if she was gay so I gues any explanation is terrifying.
We still have a few social conservatives around. Dayton, Poodle boy, & that Lonely Squire closet case.
I'm pretty sure it's Wordforge's general embrace of things like this that explains why that aren't around anymore. As for Dayton, I believe he has acknowledged the writing on the wall regarding the legal question. Not sure what he says to his daughter, but I am pretty sure he considers any action embracing same gender attraction to be a sin.
He does, but thinks until he's President and able to prevent abortions in any format, it's a much lower priority.
I didn't include Apostle, because by the time he has kids to explain it to there won't be anything to explain, they'll grow up in a world where being against gay marriage is as wacky as being against interracial marriage. Edit: I'm genuinely curious about it since "BUT HOW WILL WE EXPLAIN IT TO THE CHILDREN!?" seemed to be a common thing for social conservatives a few years ago.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/DC-Dec...ow-Supreme-Court-might-view-same-sex-marriage Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg offered some hints as to how the SCOTUS might address the pending cases. She suggests that court is waiting on a decision from the 6th Circuit (MI, OH, KY, TN) before taking any action. She says there will be less urgency if the 6th circuit falls in line with the other appeals circuits, whereas upholding the marriage bans would encourage the SCOTUS to take a case sooner. Reading between the lines, it seems that the court may try to duck the issue until there is a fresh circuit split. They could possibly deny cert to the pending cases opening the door for marriage in several more states and perhaps wait another year before issuing a nationwide ruling.
Bryan Fischer calls shenanigans in Mississippi. I expect legislation to be introduced in January specifically targeting his concerns. AFA carries a lot of weight with the MS GOP
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/06/supreme-court-gay-marriage/16546959/ I was not expecting this! SCOTUS denied cert on all pending petitions. The stayed lower court rulings will go into effect shortly and most of the country will have marriage equality.
I already talked to Natalie about this, John, and while she doesn't mind sharing me with my wife, she feels she needs to give all of her attention to me. Sorry, no room for you in this triad.
nothing immediately, but when the 8th rules if it is in agreement with the cases considered today, then it would go into effect without being stayed. 5,6,8,9, and 11 are still out and the 9th is a given.
This also pretty much guarantees then when they do hear a case on the issue, they will rule in favour of marriage throughout the US.
Here's a good summary of the status and litigation projects for all 50 states: http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_268773/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=IpA6ZXQx