Same-sex marriage headed to the Supreme Court

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  1. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    I'm not opposed, necessarily but a reasonable argument could be made that our whole legal system presumes a binary format and the complexity of recognizing a potentially unlimited number of parties makes the legal ramifications prohibitive.
  2. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    interesting. Sounds like a variant on Heinlein's Line Marriages
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  3. FrijolMalo

    FrijolMalo A huddled mass

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    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/26/wisconsin-indiana-gay-marriage/14607195/

    The 7th Circuit Court of Appeals heard cases from Wisconsin and Indiana today. Analyses suggest a unanimous ruling against the marriage bans from the 3 judge panel, which means a decision would likely be out sooner than in other cases at the appeals level. Judge Richard Posner, a Reagan appointee, did not seem receptive to the state's arguments.
    Audio from the both cases is available online. (Indiana) (Wisconsin)
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    FrijolMalo A huddled mass

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    http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-louisiana-marriage-ban-20140903-story.html
    For the first time since section 3 of DOMA was struck down, a federal district judge (in Louisiana) upheld a ban on same-sex marriage.

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/court-rules-gay-marriage-bans-states-25250547
    In a remarkably speedy decision, the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals released a unanimous decision in the Indiana and Wisconsin cases less than 2 weeks after oral arguments finding that the bans in those states are unconstitutional. The mandate has not yet been issued and will likely be stayed pending appeal to the SCOTUS. 5 cases now have rulings at the appeals level striking down bans on same-sex marriage in 3 separate appeals circuits.
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Given Louisiana's dependence on tourism, the hoteliers and restauranteurs need to start kicking ass...
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  6. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    doesn't mean the 5th will uphold though.

    It's fascinating though. If the do, then it's a hot ticket to SCOTUS, but if they don't, then there goes the Traditionalists' last best hope of an Appeals court win.
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    Judge rules Louisiana's ban on gay marriage is unconstitutional.
    :techman:
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  9. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    It's a shame posters like Bock and Bulldog aren't active anymore, very curious how the religious conservatives go about explaining this to their children.

    Edit: Suppose we have @Dayton3 but I remember him saying he'd disown his daughter if she was gay so I gues any explanation is terrifying.
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  10. Phoenix

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    We still have a few social conservatives around. Dayton, Poodle boy, & that Lonely Squire closet case.
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    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    I'm pretty sure it's Wordforge's general embrace of things like this that explains why that aren't around anymore. As for Dayton, I believe he has acknowledged the writing on the wall regarding the legal question. Not sure what he says to his daughter, but I am pretty sure he considers any action embracing same gender attraction to be a sin.
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    He does, but thinks until he's President and able to prevent abortions in any format, it's a much lower priority.
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    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    I didn't include Apostle, because by the time he has kids to explain it to there won't be anything to explain, they'll grow up in a world where being against gay marriage is as wacky as being against interracial marriage.

    Edit: I'm genuinely curious about it since "BUT HOW WILL WE EXPLAIN IT TO THE CHILDREN!?" seemed to be a common thing for social conservatives a few years ago.
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  14. FrijolMalo

    FrijolMalo A huddled mass

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    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/DC-Dec...ow-Supreme-Court-might-view-same-sex-marriage

    Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg offered some hints as to how the SCOTUS might address the pending cases. She suggests that court is waiting on a decision from the 6th Circuit (MI, OH, KY, TN) before taking any action. She says there will be less urgency if the 6th circuit falls in line with the other appeals circuits, whereas upholding the marriage bans would encourage the SCOTUS to take a case sooner. Reading between the lines, it seems that the court may try to duck the issue until there is a fresh circuit split. They could possibly deny cert to the pending cases opening the door for marriage in several more states and perhaps wait another year before issuing a nationwide ruling.
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    Chickenshits.
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  16. Nova

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    Bryan Fischer calls shenanigans in Mississippi.

    I expect legislation to be introduced in January specifically targeting his concerns. AFA carries a lot of weight with the MS GOP

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    Yeah, but they're drooling mongoloids. :shrug:
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    She may be. Just not with you.
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    I wonder what this means for North Dakota. There is a lawsuit in progress as of June.
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    Next year the court will decide again.
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    You won't know unless you try.
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  24. gul

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    I already talked to Natalie about this, John, and while she doesn't mind sharing me with my wife, she feels she needs to give all of her attention to me. Sorry, no room for you in this triad.
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    Do you think we could do a Naboo Queen type deal and get me Kiera Knightley?
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  26. Nova

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    nothing immediately, but when the 8th rules if it is in agreement with the cases considered today, then it would go into effect without being stayed.

    5,6,8,9, and 11 are still out and the 9th is a given.
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    Let the gay weddings at the Schoolhouse commence.
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  28. Bailey

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    This also pretty much guarantees then when they do hear a case on the issue, they will rule in favour of marriage throughout the US.
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