Same-sex marriage headed to the Supreme Court

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  1. The Prussian Mafia

    The Prussian Mafia Sex crazed nympho

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    This is great! Now maybe the GOP will start focusing on some real issues since they lost this one...

    :rofl: I crack myself up.
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  2. Ancalagon

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    So I'm not gay, nor do I live in a place with a marriage equality ban (so not many friends effected) but I like the slow pace. Keep the activists working a few states at a time. Keep the public opinion needle moving.

    Worse scenario would be like Roe v Wade where the good guys win the legal battle, so give up on the public opinion side and focus solely on protecting the legal status quo instead of on swaying public opinion. Public opinion remains about the same decades later (although there are recent positive movements).
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    aaaaaaand there goes the 9th.

    35 states and counting

    http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2014/10/ninth-circuit-strikes-down-marriage-bans-in-idaho-and-nevada/

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    1,2,3,4,7,9,and 10 affirm.
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  5. Tuckerfan

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    And you gotta love the "logic" used by those opposed to SSM in this case
    Really? Allowing gays to get married is going to lead to more out-of-wedlock births? How's that supposed to work? :wtf:
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  7. Nova

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    Best.
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  10. FrijolMalo

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    http://equalityontrial.com/2014/10/...iage-case-temporarily-stayed-justice-kennedy/

    In an odd turn of events, Justice Kennedy has granted a temporary stay of yesterday's mandate from the 9th circuit. The most notable difference between the decision from the 9th and the other circuits is that the 9th based their decision on heightened scrutiny rather than rational basis. Perhaps the court will want to take up this case to address the 9ths application of heightened scrutiny.
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    Is there an English version of this legalese?
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    Seriously, kids adopted and conceived by gay couples have won the Family Lotto...no wondering about whether you were wanted or planned, and couples that adopt have much lower divorce rates than those that got married 'cuz the pregnancy test came up positive (like my brother that blames all his problems on his wife now that she's on deployment. :brood: ).
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    Alaska has theirs tossed out.
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    In the long run the Republican plan to turn marriage equality into a culture war issue sure has backfired. Yes, as turdblossom planned it helped motivate conservative turn out during the 2004 election but it also started a huge debate about equality and legal discrimination against minorities. 10 years later not only have most of those marriage bans, rightly, been struck down but now the majoirty of the population supports equlity and conservatives are already trying to pretend they always supported it.

    It took 30 years before conservatives stopped supporting segregation and stopped speaking out against desegregation. Hell, they're still trying to remove desegregation laws and repeal the voting rights act but at least now they claim to support it (even as they try to kill it behind the scenes).
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    As I've pointed out elsewhere, AFA and other Traditionalist social activist organizations are coming up on 40 years in business and EVERY cause they have taken up is much worse (from their perspective) than it was before the took it up.
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    Even snails are getting into the act!
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  21. FrijolMalo

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    Marriage equality is now in full effect in 29 states plus DC. Alaska's ruling has a temporary stay that dissolves at noon tomorrow barring further action by the SCOTUS. Missouri is also now recognizing marriages from out of state while not performing them.

    The 5 states highlighted in yellow are bound by the appellate court decisions and should have marriage equality in short order. A judge in Wyoming has stated that he will issue a ruling by 5 p.m. Monday. The judge in the pending South Carolina case is facing a retention election and has decided to schedule proceedings in the case for after the election. A ruling from the 6th Circuit (MI, OH, KY, TN) is due any day now. Arkansas has a pending case before the AR Supreme Court that could have a ruling before year's end. Florida has pending cases in both state and federal courts. The attorney-general has asked the FL Supreme Court to take up the matter and issue a definitive ruling.

    The biggest question mark at the moment is how the 6th will rule. The swing vote on the panel, Judge Sutton seemed inclined to uphold the bans during oral arguments. He's also an admirer of Judge Posner, the author of the unanimous 7th Circuit opinion that struck down the bans in Wisconsin and Indiana. One has to wonder if Posner's opinion along with the SCOTUS's denial of cert in the other cases may sway his opinion. If the 6th circuit does indeed rule against the marriage bans, we could very well see over 40 states with marriage equality by year's end! At that point, I would imagine any remaining holdouts would start to feel mounting social pressure as well as pressure from major businesses to do away with their bans. If the 6th upholds the bans, it's quite likely that the SCOTUS would take the appeal, and we could potentially have a nationwide ruling by Summer 2015.
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  22. FrijolMalo

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    http://www.azcentral.com/story/news...4/10/17/arizona-gay-marriage-ruling/17431229/

    Arizona's ban was struck down this morning. The state will not pursue an appeal.

    Edit to add:

    Statement from the Arizona AG:
    "It is unethical for a lawyer to file a pleading for a purpose of delay rather than to achieve a result.The probability of the 9th circuit reversing today's circuit court decision is zero.The probability of SCOTUS accepting review of the 9th circuit's decision is also zero. Therefore, the only purpose that would be served by filling another appeal would be to waste the taxpayers' money. That is not a good conservative principle. I have decided not to appeal today's decision which would be an exercise in futility and which would serve only the purpose of wasting taxpayers' money."

    Edit:
    SCOTUS also declined to extend the stay in Alaska without comment. Marriages have resumed.
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  23. The Original Faceman

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    Congratulations to @Chaos Descending. He can finally get the Arizona love he deserves.
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    A federal district judge in Wyoming (begrudgingly) issued a preliminary injunction citing the 10th circuit precedent. The state will not appeal. The order will go into effect no later than Thursday October 23.

    Same sex couples can now marry in 32 state plus D.C..
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  25. Amaris

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    Come on, Ohio!
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  27. Shirogayne

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    I read somewhere that the magistrate in question in NC wouldn't be reappointed at the end of his term anyway because of unrelated criminal charges. This way he gets to look like a religious martyr.

    The pace we've seen recently is astounding, but I think this controversy shows where the next fight for gay rights will be. I think we'll see lots of states try to pass license-to-discriminate bills under the guise of "religious freedom."
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    Well, when they couch bigotry as "freedom", I hope it just speeds up the death of religion when younger people see how toxic it really is.
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  30. Shirogayne

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    They'll target transsexuals next, no doubt. Even the more liberal areas like California are still on the fence about the idea of gender fluidity and it's still the one group that everyone can still kind of mututally piss upon.
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