Shots fired at Lone Star College in Houston...

Odds are they bought them from a "Pssst, hey. Check out what I got in the trunk" guy in Georgia or Arizona or one of those other states that don't need no stinkin' registration, or they stole them from some sloppy gun owner whose unregistered guns were not secured in the house while they were out at Walmart buying more.

You know that that "those other states" are in the majority don't you? By my count only seven states have a gun registration to one degree or another.

Or as is usually the case they bought stolen weapons.

If your doors and windows are locked your guns are secure.

It didn't happen on a school campus. School shootings are all the rage now, dontchya know???

Aye, there's the rub.

Ah, so your guns will never be stolen. Gotcha.

Of course, by that rationale, if you're in the house and your doors and windows are locked, you'd also be secure.

Almost 20 years ago, my former residence was broken into and my guns were stolen, along with my stereo, VCR, etc., etc. So why does a crime that was committed against me mean that I should not be allowed to own guns?

How is that possible? Zombie says they were secure.

Nope.

Cause a gun registration means nothing to criminals.

Just like criminals don't care about all the other gun laws designed to stop them.

Assuming these two were not legally able to own guns that means that they wouldn't be registering any guns nor would the seller be registering the sale. So we know our seller is selling stolen guns or if the guns actually belong to the seller he's going to file a false police report that they were stolen in order to protect himself in the event those guns are used in a crime.

So once again criminals, already known for not following the law, are ignoring the law.

Never said that.

But you're living in fantasy world if you think gun owners can make guns 100% secure without 24-7 armed security patrolling the house.

Guns (among other things) have been stolen from all sorts of "secure" things.

All gun owners IMHO should have a basic safe to keep the kids out of getting the guns but other then that there is not much you can do. Other then making sure your house is locked up.

Of course it helps that leftists don't publish your name and address for the criminals to see if you own guns too.

You're going to play the word game and try to say secure means something can't be stolen. Things don't work like that. Just ask the German police dealing with a 100 foot tunnel into a banks vault where the thieves snatched up all those "secure" safe deposit boxes.

What you said was:

"If your doors and windows are locked your guns are secure."

But I guess you meant something else.

Old lady, I never said the guns couldn't be stolen.

But if they are in your house and the doors and windows are locked then they are secure.

As it stands now, I've got a flash drive with photos, descriptions, and serial numbers of all my firearms, along with other valuables, for insurance purposes. If any of my guns get lost or stolen, law enforcement will have all that, but not before. I'd rather keep it that way.

See, now, that's responsible gun ownership. It's something the NRA, among others, should be encouraging, but they're too busy grabbing air time to make incendiary speeches and foment hysteria.

It's also something I'd bet precious few other members of Gunforge can be bothered doing.

I have all of my model numbers and serial numbers locked up in a safe.

You guys don't use the gun cloud?

Hope it's not your gun safe.

Okay. And if any of those guns were stolen, you'd provide those numbers to the local authorities?

Of course. Then your insurance company gives you the money to buy replacements.


Which you don't give the gov't the serial numbers to. (Unless they too are stolen.

The NRA does that. You're just too stupid and refuse to take off your blinders to see.

I thought guns were supposed to help protect against things like that?

It's almost as if they're as susceptible to human error as everything else.

No. Guns are not supposed to help protect personal property...unless you live in Texas.

What human error? Being burglerized?

Muad made a huge mistake when his house's dress was too short that one night.

I love a story with a happy ending!!!

False flag. Duh.

I was at work. I can't guard my home 24/7, but I guard my person about that much.

As if the NRA is the only organization to make incendiary speeches and fomenting hysteria.

Wow, that was helpful. Do you have records of your guns in case they're lost or stolen?